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CCW IN ********** HELP!

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  1. Sierramistbush

    Sierramistbush Member

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    I am a college student living in Sonoma county in northern California and I am attempting to apply for a CCW permit in the state. If anyone can help me with information on getting a CCW aside from applying directly to my city police department that would be great. I have only come across signs of rejection when trying to apply for a permit. The police representative tells me that the police don't want civilians/citizens to have handguns, and say that i don't have a good enough reason to carry, even though my reason is in the Constitution. What can I do to get a CCW!?!?!:banghead: :fire:
     
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  3. The Real Hawkeye

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    If carried correctly, the chance of being spotted by a cop is less than that of being struck by lightening. Better to be judged by 9 than carried by 6 pall bearers, especially since the worst possible case scenario is to be fined a couple of hundred bucks and have a misdemeanor on your record. The worst case scenario of not having a handgun is being killed because you needed it and didn't have it.
     
  4. Sierramistbush

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    hmm....

    Is it possible for me to apply for a CCW in another county in ********** other than where I live, b/c Mendacino County is much easier to apply to, however, I don't live there...?:confused:
     
  5. The Real Hawkeye

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    I don't know, but I have heard of gun friendly sheriffs taking people on as auxiliary deputies, an unpaid position, with few if any real service duties. This action authorizes you to carry concealed any place in the state of California.
     
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    No, you must apply in the county of your residence. If this wasn't the case, I'd have applied in Orange months ago :)
     
  7. Sierramistbush

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    What exactly does county of residence imply? Can I say I live with a relative or friend in another county???
     
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    I haven't lived in the People's Republic of California since 2002, so I'm not fully up to speed on the latest laws, but it was my understanding that if one's arrested for carrying a concealed registered firearm, yes, it's a misdemeanor, all right, but a.) the firearm will be confiscated; b.) the fine will probably be substantial, and c.) one is prohibited by law from buying another firearm in the P.R.C. for ten years.

    These matters are much more sensibly handled in the United States.
     
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    Anyone know how far it is from Yolo county to Travis AFB???

    I may have to move there and I don't want to get stuck in a crappy cop county...
     
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    It usually means the county that the address on your drivers license is in.

    If you don't have a license, it would be were the Gov has your residence, i.e. postal service, police, etc.
     
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    What about Military.. I technically am a resident of Texas...

    Though I would be living in whatever county is least Stalinist, that I can still afford to drive to work from..
     
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    When I applied for a drivers license, I just put down my new address without any proof to back that up...does that mean I can Make it a P.O. box in Mendecino County, or another friends house there???
     
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    By the way, you are only allowed to carry in the location the permit was granted. If your police chief granted it, you can only carry in that city. If CHP granted it, you can only carry in their jurisdiction. If a county grants it, you can only carry in that county. Once you step out of the boundary, you're carrying illegally.
     
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    Wow! That stinks. You might consider moving to the United States of America.
     
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    Do my 2nd amendment rights not apply when I enter california? I don't understand how I don't have the right to bear arms? If the police aren't required to protect me, who is???:confused:


    Police have no legal duty to respond and prevent crime or protect the victim. There have BEEN OVER 10 various supreme and state court cases the individual has never won. Notably, the Supreme Court STATED about the responsibility of police for the security of your family and loved ones is "You, and only you, are responsible for your security and the security of your family and loved ones. That was the essence of a U.S. Supreme Court decision in the early 1980's when they ruled that the police do not have a duty to protect you as an individual, but to protect society as a whole."
    http://publicrights.org/Kennesaw/PoliceResponsibility.html
     
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    whoops, bare arms...
     
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    I do not believe this is correct. I am pretty sure a CCW permit is good statewide.
     
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    You have a right to bare arms, but in the winter you are liable to get chilly. :neener:
     
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    Section 7 of the CCW license application it states the Investigator's Interview Notes:

    If the CCW licnese is desired for self-protection, the protection of others, or for the protection of large sums of money or valuable property, you are required to explain and provide good cause for issuance of the license. For example, has your life or property been threatened or jeopardized? Explain incidents and include dates, times, locations, and names of police agencies to which these incidents were reported.

    Details of Reason for Applicant Desiring a CCW License:

    Ummmm...isn't the 2nd amendment good enough reason??? I'm a student, and have never been directly threatened to the point to where I've made a police report, however, i have been in situations where my life should be protected...everyday life...it's not fairyland out in the real world, and there aren't enough police officers to be my personal bodyguard everywhere I go...If anyone has good reasons for having a CCW that I may use in my application that would we great, b/c according to the City of Rohnert Park, the United States Constitution isn't important.
     
  20. The Real Hawkeye

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    I wouldn't look to the Federal Government for the protection of your right to keep and bear arms. We have trouble enough keeping them from disarming us entirely.

    But I will help you out. SierraMistBush, if you post here again, I will beat you to within an inch of your life. There, now you have a reason for wanting a handgun license the police will recognize.
     
  21. Sierramistbush

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    If you insist...but now the ATF is going to raid your house...jk...what aobut if I decided to run for public office...would that give me a good enough reason to be issued a CCW??? I could always just run for something in Rohnert Park..?
     
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    I asked LAPD cops about CCW and they basically told me to forget about it. Apparently, the hoops and hurdles are long and well-constructed. They also worded their discouragement quite curiously:

    "You have to convince us that you need it."

    Since when does one have to convince others to allow him to exercise his constitutional rights that supposedly are not to be infringed?

    :barf:
     
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    Yes, you must live in the same county you apply in. They check and can arrest you for lying on your application.

    No,you can't give a P.O. Box as your address.


    Yes, your permit is good state wide, the issuing agency can put "restrictions" on your permit, about 95 % of permits in Ca have no restrictions except the one you are "verbally" told when you get your permit it varies from agency,but things like no hiring out to 3rd party's-under the influence alcohol drugs etc.

    Every County Sheriff/City Chief of police has authority to NOT honor your permit in THEIR jurisdiction, this is a very very rare occurrence.


    Good Luck.
     
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    California CCW is a statewide licence, just like every other state. If the issuing authority in your area issues you a CCW, then you are legal to carry anywhere in the state. (Other than place you are specifically denied access by state and federal law). There is no loophole in the residency requirement. You must apply with the issuing authority in your area.
     
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