CCW makes you exempt from background check?

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  1. joem1945

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    I've never tried it. If I remember, I'll try it the next time I make a purchase.
     
  2. Ringer

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    Uhm you realize you quoted a post that is 10 years old? Things change [emoji106] .

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  3. AZ Desertrat

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    Yes.....in my state....don't know about others.
     
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    Here in KY if you have a CCW the state police run a NICS check on you monthly anyway. So unless you are buyng more than one gun a month you really aren't being exempted from anything. That's why our numbers are so incredibly high whenever many media outlets publish the background check numbers and then equate them to the number of firearm purchases. I wish I could afford to buy 12 guns/year!
     
  5. toivo

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    It's a matter of negotiation between states and the ATF. In NY, a CCW used to exempt you, but it no longer does. I was told that this is because NY's sloppy record-keeping with lifelong permits no longer satisfied the Feds. When some smartass "journalist" posted the permit-holder database online a few years ago, Eleanor Roosevelt was still listed on it.
     
  6. Derry 1946

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    In Louisiana, you're exempt with your carry permit, except, perversely, with a lifetime permit.
     
  7. JohnKSa

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    It is a fine distinction, but one that is probably worth noting.

    There is really no way to be exempted from the background check required by federal law to purchase a firearm from a dealer. Everyone who purchases a firearm from an FFL holder/dealer gets background checked. It's just that not all checks happen at the time of sale.

    The law accepts proof of a qualifying background check that has taken place within the last few years. Some state-issued handgun licenses/permits require a qualifying background check. Such permits/licenses are therefore accepted as proof that the buyer has been background checked.
     
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    I have used my Permit in Ky for guess near 10 years. fill out 4473 No check needed He enters you permit number on the 4473 where check info goes . This been a law in Ky for a long time .

    Come on down to Harrodsburg and buy their cheaper price and dealer knows what going on.
     
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    There are a few chain stores like Dunhams (I believe) that still require a NICS check even though the CPL of the state supersedes it. And for a while Cabelas use to require it. I can't remember the last time I've had one run on me. CPLs in most cases are far more stringent than a NICS check. At least in MI you get fingerprinted and an FBI records check.
     
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    I didn't know LA had liftetime permits, though IN was the only one...is that brand new?

    That is because a regular carry license, which expires, shows you passed a background check at least that recently, a lifetime could mean you haven't passed a check for a long time, possibly

    That is because KY literally runs a background check on very single permit holder every single month...so you're getting checks run constantly whether you fill out forms or buy guns at FFL's or not
     
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    It's comparatively new in Louisiana. I understand the theory. The theory is inaccurate. You still have to have the background check every five years, same as the regular permit. You just pay for a lifetime's worth at once, with a slight discount. I think it pays for itself after 20 years.
     
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    SC CWP = no new background check for gun purchase
     
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    Still have them in PA. I honestly don't care. The state is slow to revoke CCW permits, which is a good thing. But that's the reasoning they give for not accepting the CCW as your check. W/ the amount of government clearances I have the NICS check is of no concern. It adds an extra five minutes to the transaction.
     
  15. Warp

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    Well, what do you mean by that, exactly?

    I have two responses to this statement.

    1-That depends on the state and the license in question

    2-I would say that, no, a carry license does NOT = no background check for a gun purchase (from an FFL)...I would say that, in applicable states, a carry license = the background check you already had performed when you got the license has a certain lifespan during which it can be applied to firearm acquisitions from FFL's


    Edit: I realize you said no "new" background check for a gun purchase, in which case, yes, that is basically the case in some states, for purchases from FFL's, no "new" background check done at that moment when you are in the store
     
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    In Texas I wouldn't say it "exempts" you from a check they simply know that they already preformed the check before they sent you the CHL. At that point, no need to waste money/resources doing the same job over and over.

    A rare use of common sense in Government.
     
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    Please delete.
     
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    Hence the word 'new'. No new background check has to be made when you purchase a gun through an FFL as they accept the one that was done when you got your CWP. Or did you mean to quote my post anyway as I don't understand your #1 response either since I listed SC as the state?
     
  19. Warp

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    #1 was I can't read, I saw the word "so" where you had the postal abbreviation SC lol
     
  20. toivo

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    I think "SC" in his post means "South Carolina."
     
  21. Jim Watson

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    Alabama CCW permit background check was decreed good enough for purchases this past February.
     
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    No NICS background check required in Kansas with carry permit. Still fill out the 4473 form.
     
  23. The Lone Haranguer

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    Not in my state. They (i.e., TBI) run the background check every time.
     
  24. spazzymcgee

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    Just chiming in for Delaware: CCDW doesn't exempt us from NICS checks when purchasing directly from an FFL, but exempts us from a "transfer" when purchasing a firearm from another individual.
     
  25. Warp

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    Well...

     
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