CCW on military base? (Air Force form 523)
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Bob R
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What he said.
While the carrying of a loaded weapon on an AFB by any one other than security is strictly forbidden, you can take your gun onto some bases.
The two I am familiar with allow it, but differently.
Malmstrom AFB would allow me to have my pistol in my car, as long as it was unloaded and locked in a case. It also had to be out of reach. If you were spending the night on base (AF Lodge) your weapons had to go to the armory.
At Fairchild AFB, I have to let the gate security know that I am a licensed carrier and I have my gun with me. They will direct me to the security office where my gun will be placed in safe keeping until I leave the base. I pick it up on my way out.
The only way to find out for sure is to call the security forces of the base you want to go onto and ask what their policy is.
bob
What he said.
While the carrying of a loaded weapon on an AFB by any one other than security is strictly forbidden, you can take your gun onto some bases.
The two I am familiar with allow it, but differently.
Malmstrom AFB would allow me to have my pistol in my car, as long as it was unloaded and locked in a case. It also had to be out of reach. If you were spending the night on base (AF Lodge) your weapons had to go to the armory.
At Fairchild AFB, I have to let the gate security know that I am a licensed carrier and I have my gun with me. They will direct me to the security office where my gun will be placed in safe keeping until I leave the base. I pick it up on my way out.
The only way to find out for sure is to call the security forces of the base you want to go onto and ask what their policy is.
bob
"It's great to see a site admin has no respect for the enlisted folks in our armed forces, but is willing to lump all Officers in the awesome people file."
JShirley (a former enlisted infantryman who served in Afghanistan) probably should have used an emoticon. I'm sure irony was intended...not disrespect.
JShirley (a former enlisted infantryman who served in Afghanistan) probably should have used an emoticon. I'm sure irony was intended...not disrespect.
Sergeant Major, it's kind of you to stick up for me, but...
It'd be nice if some folks read a little more carefully before jumping onto their high horses.
For the reading/understanding impaired, I wrote- I"ll emphasize as appropriate-
Now, if you, like me, have been surrounded by a bunch of bored young infantrymen, many with little practical experience with firearms except under very strict controls, and who have little to do with themselves on the weekend except get drunk, try to find a girl and/or a fight, you either understand, or you don't. If you've been there, then you understand exactly what I'm saying. I'm not talking about protection in a combat zone, I'm talking about a lack of concealed carry on a base in the States.
True statement, and in my opinion, this has much to do with the background of those involved. I have never been sexually harassed by officers (as I have two NCOs), I have never been cursed without reason from an officer (as I have from multiple enlisteds, both lower and NCO), and in general there seem to be fewer jerks per volume, in my experience, in the officer ranks.
Now, if you can't understand what I said from what I wrote, you know how to PM me. I don't draw very well, but I'll do my best to draw you a picture. If you have nothing better to do with your time than be insulted, help yourself.
John
It'd be nice if some folks read a little more carefully before jumping onto their high horses.
For the reading/understanding impaired, I wrote- I"ll emphasize as appropriate-
Now, if you, like me, have been surrounded by a bunch of bored young infantrymen, many with little practical experience with firearms except under very strict controls, and who have little to do with themselves on the weekend except get drunk, try to find a girl and/or a fight, you either understand, or you don't. If you've been there, then you understand exactly what I'm saying. I'm not talking about protection in a combat zone, I'm talking about a lack of concealed carry on a base in the States.
True statement, and in my opinion, this has much to do with the background of those involved. I have never been sexually harassed by officers (as I have two NCOs), I have never been cursed without reason from an officer (as I have from multiple enlisteds, both lower and NCO), and in general there seem to be fewer jerks per volume, in my experience, in the officer ranks.
Now, if you can't understand what I said from what I wrote, you know how to PM me. I don't draw very well, but I'll do my best to draw you a picture. If you have nothing better to do with your time than be insulted, help yourself.
John
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Explain away, but the problem was not so much with the reading as with the writing. Separating the sentences as you've done above lessens the (apparently unintentional) subtext...
Oh well, I suppose I can't fault you, after spending some time on a military base with a bunch of Army types, I do understand. OTOH, I've had a great deal of respect for almost all airmen I've encountered in my service.
Oh well, I suppose I can't fault you, after spending some time on a military base with a bunch of Army types, I do understand. OTOH, I've had a great deal of respect for almost all airmen I've encountered in my service.
Me, too. Air Force and Navy types I've run across have been extremely polite and intelligent, with almost no exception. Marines, OTOH...
I've had to call the Sergeant of the Guard before on a Marine Sergeant who tried to refuse to let us search his truck as he drove back on base. Hey, guy, we're just trying to stop the bombs, you know? Or the Marine Sgt Major who demanded we make "his" Marines always show id before we allowed them back in, even if we recognized, but who didn't take his own id with him when he left the camp. Known a few really good Marines, too.
I've had to call the Sergeant of the Guard before on a Marine Sergeant who tried to refuse to let us search his truck as he drove back on base. Hey, guy, we're just trying to stop the bombs, you know? Or the Marine Sgt Major who demanded we make "his" Marines always show id before we allowed them back in, even if we recognized, but who didn't take his own id with him when he left the camp. Known a few really good Marines, too.- Status
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