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CCW shotgun...heh heh :)

Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Marcus, Dec 28, 2002.

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  1. Marcus

    Marcus Member

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    A friend and fellow CCW holder recently pointed out to me that our carry permits allowed carry of "various firearms",not just handguns. The discussion turned to just what the heck else type of firearm besides a handgun one might carry,from there on it just kept getting goofier and so on. ;) But the question begs to be asked,could a CCW shotgun of some type be even semi practical and if so what would it be and how would it be carried? What about AOWs? How hard are they to get licenced for and purchase? I doubt if I`d ever even consider packing a scattergun but it`s fun to think about....:p Marcus
     
  2. Wakal

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    One of those little 14" 3-shot 870's would be fun...have to switch to a bigger jacket though :D

    According to some sources, Doc Holliday liked a Meteor 10 guage double fitted with a pistol grip, short barrels, and a ring welded to the barrels at the point of balance. Wore it under a long coat on a strap so that when he opened his coat, it would swing horizontal. Always thought that would be fun for CAS...




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  3. Preacherman

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    I remember reading about a "Witness Protection" model shotgun, which was an 870 with the barrel sawn off level with the barrel retaining nut at the head of the magazine. The stock was sawn off so that only an abbreviated few inches were left as a pistol grip. This was apparently intended for vertical slung carry, muzzle-down, underneath an overcoat by US Marshals and other agents - hence the name. It could apparently be deployed fairly rapidly, and with 5 rounds of buckshot, would be a pretty potent close-range trouble-stopper.

    I don't recall who made this model - anyone out there remember?
     
  4. riverdog

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    Actually, with a folding stock and a 20" slug barrel you can carry on a sling under an overcoat. It has a real pistol grip and you can always fold the stock back. Sure, you can carry an 870 concealed and you don't need to cut it down to a 14" barrel. Is it legal? I don't know. My folding stock is in storage.
     
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    Serbu Super Shorty would be perfect for CCW, I really want one of those.
     
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    Don't remember where but a couple of years ago I was looking for a particular holster on the net and ran across a shoulder holster for an AOW shotgun. Was quite the rig as I recall. Shotgun held vertically on strong side with a couple of extra rounds on the off side, to help with weight balance.
     
  8. CleverNickname

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    Concealed carry of long guns is legal in Texas, w/o a permit. I've seen shoulder holsters for Uzis and Macs. Seems sort of silly/pointless to me though.
     
  9. Marcus

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    Andrews gunleather makes a nice AOW shoulder rig. I was daydreaming about maybe a cheaper O/U,like a Lanber or Bakail with the stock shortened and rounded into a pseudo pistol grip,the forend shortened and thinned down a LOT and the barrels shortened to say 8". Carried in a good shoulder rig and loaded with Aguilla 12ga. buckshot mini-shells it might *almost* be practical and shootable....almost. ;) Marcus
     
  10. Monkeyleg

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    I was at a party years back where three drug-dealer types had sawed-off shotguns under their trenchcoats. Somehow I don't think they had the AOW forms with them, though.
     
  11. ruger357

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    Rico Tubbs shotgun on Miami vice.
     
  12. Dave McCracken

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    Any of you ever shoot one of the shorties? I'd rather try to hit with a Nambu.

    That Serbu's another example of the Cool Factor getting soneone hurt, and the wrong someone.

    Anyone that has shot an Ithaca Auto Burglar can tell you also. Very short, light shotguns are well nigh uncontrollable in A/S Scenarios. Even sub gauges.
     
  13. Wildalaska

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    I just went through this with one of our State Senators yesterday. In alaska, a carry permit is limited to handguns. In addition, the affirmative defenses to illegal concealed carrying of a weapon (ie, carrying under your coat while fishing) are based on carrying a handgun. Thus, technically, it is illegal to carry one of these under your coat while fishing:
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    Further, cant carry one under my coat with a CCW either..

    As this particular Senator is a Class 3 dealer and collector, expect to see a bill soon....
     
  14. Gordon

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    Wait a second Dave, how dare you knock an Auto Burglar Gun? :rolleyes:
     
  15. Coltdriver

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    Does anyone know if it is possible to get a shorter than 18" barrel shotgun via class three permit or tax stamp??
     
  16. Wildalaska

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    Yes, it is, if your state law allows.
     
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    I knew Dave McC would chime in eventually as the voice of reason and of course he`s absolutely right! But I figure none of us will get hurt as long as we`re just talkin about it for fun. ;) I wouldn`t even attempt to shoot one of these tiny scatterguns with full power loads (well mabe just once...) but the itty bitty Aguilla mini shells probably would be too bad. Of course there`d still be the problem of trying to hit the target.....:p Marcus
     
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    http://www.autoweapons.com/products/othergoodstuff.html

    Here you go, Preacher. Unfortunately, the Remington 870 Witness Protection shotgun link is broken, but they do have a cute 870 with a wood stock and a 14 inch barrel.


    Have a friend who's a LEO who has one of the W.P. shotguns. Very nice. Reasonably controllable.

    Regards,

    Rabbit.
     
  19. V-fib

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    What is the gun you have in the picture?
     
  20. Dave McCracken

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    OK, just for fun, but not for "Serious"....
     
  21. Andrew Wyatt

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    one of those shorties would be kinda neat with a folding stock.


    I think i'd rather have a mare's leg for CCW, though.
     
  22. TooTaxed

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    My Special Forces unit back in the '60s ran a test on every type of weapon we could round up, to see what would be the weapon of choice for fighting house-to-house. Fun! We joyously tried out some interesting stuff!

    To cut the story short, most effective turned out to be...Surprise!...a 12-ga open-choke shotgun loaded with...Surprise!...#1 buckshot! Those 16 .30 pellets would instantaneously take out a door and frame across the street with one shot...better and faster than a full clip from a submachinegun, and much lighter ammunition to carry, fast reloading. Aught and double-ought buckshot wern't as effective...too few pellets, making a body hit more chancy. :evil:
     
  23. GinSlinger

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    Bonnie (of Bonnie and Clyde fame) carried a sawed off 12 ga with a shortened stock. Attatched to the top and bottom of the butt was a short strap which was looped over the sholder. The gun could be carried under any mid to full-length jacket. The real kicker was that when the fore-end was lifted the butt was automatically placed at the proper position to fire. Saw it demonstrated once and it was real effective. My guess is that a normal to large male could hide it under a normal jacket.

    GinSlinger
     
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  25. Marcus

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    Ginslinger,interesting you should mention that. The gun was an Auto 5 12ga. if memory serves and while it was one of Clydes favorites Bonnie used it in quite a few instances too. She used it with great effect despite the fact that she was something like 4'8" 95lbs. :ar15: Possibly a matter of doing well with it because she didn`t know she wasn`t supposed to be able to handle it? Marcus
     
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