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CCW While at Work - Why?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by goings_51, Aug 3, 2007.

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  1. goings_51

    goings_51 Member

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    When I read through the various forums, I get the impression that many, many of you carry while at work whether allowed or not. All arguments about "locked in car" or postal worker jokes aside, why do you feel so threatened at work that you risk your job every day? What environment do you work in? Is the security inadequate?
     
  2. LightningJoe

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    I don't carry a gun for self-defense. Sure, it could be used for that, I guess. But that's not why I carry.
     
  3. CTPistol

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    I never got that impression from this, or any other, gun forum.

    Most seem to abide by the rules (like it or not) as they need a job.

    :confused:
     
  4. deanf

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    Your question is a little smarmy.

    I don't carry because I feel threatened. I carry for self-defense if I am threatened.
     
  5. thexrayboy

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    People carry while at work for the exact same reason they carry while shopping for groceries or standing in line at the movies.....because they can't predict the future and they have acknowledged the fact that violence is often random and unpredictable. Just because you are "on the clock" does nothing to alter this.

    Those people who carry at work in spite of employer prohibition have made a conscious choice that their safety and security are a priority over their job.

    You can always get another job...you can't get your health or life back after a violent attack. The odds of being attacked anywhere....even at work are minimal. The problem is the consequences when you lose that bet. A gun is just like an ambulance. You pray you never ever need one but if you do you need it desparately and you need it RIGHT NOW!.
     
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    I take it you've never heard of a workplace shooting? Or someone who is attacked on their way to work, or after work before they go home?

    If you decide to carry, and can carry at work, why would you not do so? Do you really have your life scheduled to the point where you can predict when you will be attacked and will need your gun?
     
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    Well, yes I do carry at work. My boss likes that. So do my co-workers. There have been four robberies within .5 mile of work...three of these resulted in victim death. There are four concealed handguns in the office...every day. We are comfortable with this arrangement.

    Mark.
     
  9. ZeSpectre

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    Dunno, what do you think about Virginia Tech? Seemed pretty safe...until it wasn't. I've worked in a hum-drum office, boring, safe, and yet they had one of the most comprehensive "accidental death and dismemberment" policies I've ever seen. Makes you think a little now doesn't it.
     
  10. Car Knocker

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    Because bad things can happen to people at work. Convenience store robberies/muders involve people at work. Pizza delivery people get robbed/murdered at work. Jewelry salesmen get robbed/murdered at work. Women at work get assaulted/killed at work by ex-husbands/boyfriends. School teachers are assaulted/raped/murdered at work. The list goes on. Places of employment aren't necessarily "safe" places - law offices, courts, hospitals, churches, schools, restaurants, are all places workers have been killed.
     
  11. Tom Servo

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    A gun is a tool, like any other. Sometimes there's not a stapler or a hole-punch close at hand.







    :rolleyes:

    I carry at work because I'm around lots of armed folks I don't know very well. The boss pretty much requires that we carry. Of course, I work at a gun shop....

    It's interesting that I HAVE needed a gun at two previous jobs, both of which had me working in questionable areas, and both of which prohibited employee carry.

    There are workplace shootings. There are people who will kill you for $20 out of the cash register. I had a friend who worked at a convenience store in a "nice" neighborhood, and he got a gun pulled on him because he refused to sell cigars to a guy's girlfriend.

    Short answer: no matter how hard you try to avoid violence, it may come looking for you, and you need to be ready.
     
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    Same reason I carry a gun everywhere else?
     
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    Dude, if I knew when I was going to need my gun, I wouldn't leave the house that day.
     
  14. fishingjld

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    i am one of THOSE that has to not carry at work for the sake of my job. be it my family eating every day or carrying that is the decision i made. right or wrong thats it. now i will say if i could carry at work then i would but it's not possible. i mean pick up a paper and everyday it's another shooting or robbery or rape. why is it even a question. if i could i would.
     
  15. geekWithA.45

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    I'm going to turn the question back to the asker: what makes you think that workplaces are any different from anywhere else?
     
  16. skinnyguy

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    I work at a school, and while I do not have my CCW yet (on the waiting list), I will be carrying. Schools are known to be criminal empowerment zones, and while we do have an on-campus police officer during class hours, not only can that officer not be everywhere on 25 acres of campus at once, I work after class hours, and there are a great many things still going on at that time. So yes, our security IS inadequate, very much so.

    Beyond that, a great many of our students are not known for their respect levels or honesty and law-abiding ways. We also have several gangs in town, and some of the members are in attendance there, and my job many times will require me to make some of them mad.

    For the most part, I do feel secure at work, but there are many students, teachers, and other staff members I would do all I can to protect, myself included. As a result, I am not taking any chances.

    For the record, Utah DOES allow concealed weapons carry on school campuses with proper documentation.
     
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    My job is related to a retail business. Guess what? Random people (many of them) walk into the building all day long. That is why I carry at work.
     
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    Wow, xrayboy must have super x-ray powers to x-ray my brain and find out what I'm thinking. Get out of my head!!

    In all seriousness, +1. Name the place, and people have been attacked there. It doesn't matter if it's in a nice area, in broad daylight, or in front of a group of people. Violence can happen anywhere. People have been attacked in churches. People have been attacked in front of news cameras. People have been attacked in police stations. If some goblin barges into my office, what should I say? "Ha! I'm on base! No tagging allowed! Neener!"???
     
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    Sheesh!

    I'm gonna have to assume that even on this forum, a lot of folks didn't know that OSHA shows workplace violence the number two cause of death and injury year in and year out. Only vehicles like cars, forklifts and trucks are number one.
    Sounds like a pretty good reason to carry to me. How much is your life worth?
     
  20. Ragnar Danneskjold

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    When I got my CCW, it was while I delivered pizzas. It's not hard to imagine why one would want to carry on that job. My boss was fine with it. He kept a 1911 in the shop.
     
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    I work at a cinema, and am sometimes the last one to leave at like 2am. Having been randomly shot at a few blocks from said cinema before, carrying seems prudent for some reason.
     
  22. goings_51

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    I'll bite. I guess I'm just spoiled. I feel safe at work so I just don't worry about it.

    If I worked in retail or in a different environment, I would feel differently. I was just curious where everyone else worked.
     
  23. Guy B. Meredith

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    Ever hear of Xerox? I work for them.

    Let me tell you a little story. One day a few years back a Customer Service team was meeting at a Xerox facility in Hawaii. One of the technicians had some sort of gripe. He brought in a hand gun and started picking off team mates like ducks in a shooting gallery.

    Xerox, the happy place to work...

    Epilogue is that Xerox now has a "no weapons" policy. Whooptidoo. There are a couple of dead people in Hawaii that were in what would be in compliance with the current rule. There was one who was not.

    I did work in the US Post Office for a few months in 1992. That is a strange culture and "going postal" is not a far fetched idea there. We often kidded about it at lunch.
     
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  24. Larry Ashcraft

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    I never wear my seatbelt when I'm on my way to or from work.

    Why bother? I've never had a car accident going to or from work.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    No offense, but it is kind of a stupid question. I'm with about 98% of the other responders, if you are going to carry, why wouldn't you carry at work.

    No reason to be a sitting duck there anymore than being a sitting duck in your car, a movie theater, restaurant, your home, or any other place you may go.

    The boy scouts had it right when they made their motto: Be Prepared.
     
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