Center Point 4-16X40 scope from Walmart, should I buy it???
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TomADC
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Okay give me a few I used a base for my Remington 552 that converted the 3/8 rail to a weaver style base that will let you use the rings that came with the sope.
TomADC
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I bought and returned 3 of them. The internals are made of butter. If you turn the elevation knob up and down then test them again they will be broken. A turn up will take it it up and to the right. You will have to shoot it or strap it down and look through scope then move knobs. It doesn't have any features, but the $20 Simmons 3-9 scopes actually work and are pretty clear.
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This thread until the last post is making me want one of these scopes. I've read several good things about this brand. So are they good or not?
My thing is I always seem to get suckered into a 3x9 for various reasons. The first scope I ever got was a 3x9x32 for a .22 rifle and I don't need anymore than that. Worked fine. Then on the Leupold I bought next I didn't want to pay the extra for the higher power ones as they were quite a bit more. Then on another one I got a awesome clearance deal on one but it was a 3x9x40mm. So it just always seems like I get a 3x9 due to price. However, I've found I really want more than that. I really want a 4x16 power and this is a scope that's actually affordable. Someday I may change my mind but as of right now I have absolutely on desire to spend $500 on a scope.
This thing just seemed super cheap for what it is. Are there better options in the $100 and under price range in this power range? Seems like everything with this power range is super expensive for the most part.
My thing is I always seem to get suckered into a 3x9 for various reasons. The first scope I ever got was a 3x9x32 for a .22 rifle and I don't need anymore than that. Worked fine. Then on the Leupold I bought next I didn't want to pay the extra for the higher power ones as they were quite a bit more. Then on another one I got a awesome clearance deal on one but it was a 3x9x40mm. So it just always seems like I get a 3x9 due to price. However, I've found I really want more than that. I really want a 4x16 power and this is a scope that's actually affordable. Someday I may change my mind but as of right now I have absolutely on desire to spend $500 on a scope.
This thing just seemed super cheap for what it is. Are there better options in the $100 and under price range in this power range? Seems like everything with this power range is super expensive for the most part.
Maverick223
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HTM, 3-9x is by far the most common variable power scope, so I completely understand your predicament. A 3-9x is often less costly than a comparable 1-4x scope simply because they produce and sell more. For the most part I find optics that have high magnification to be more of a nuisance than beneficial. I do however like a nice high powered scope for long range, but when hunting I generally prefer a lower power to permit a greater field of view and faster target acquisition. Also, I do not find this to be the case with .22lr, and certainly not the case with the .17cal rimfires as the additional magnification (and adjustable parallax) is often very useful for even short distances while target shooting and plinking (small bullets have a nasty tendency to make small holes). I do not own the scope in question, but think the magnification level is nearly ideal. It is small enough to hunt squirrel and other small game with, and large enough to see targets at longer ranges without unnecessary magnification that can cause mirage. FWIW I believe the scope will serve you well...it has too many good reviews to be a poor quality optic; however I would not expect Zeiss glass quality or Nightforce durability either. 
Ignition Override
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To the original poster...
I own 4 of them and going for the fifth.
They are installed on my Marlin 336 30-30, my two 30-06 and my Weatherby Vanguard 338 Win Mag...not exactly rimfire rigs.
The glass is decent, they are a bit heavy, finishing is very good for the price.
The carry lifetime warranty, no question to ask, and when you call customer service (I did because I wanted to buy a couple of extra plastic caps....they sent it for free...) you immediately get someone on the phone from the US that can actually understand English....
They are made by Crossman and they are dead serious in breaking into the market for affordable quality scopes.....the company says that the 4-16 X 40 has been proofed up to a 416 Rigby, recoil wise.
You cannot beat the features for the money....I read some complains that the turret adjustment can be a bit iffy...actually if people would take time to look at what they buy or at least read the instructions they could see that you can adjust the "crispness" of the turret adjustment with an hex key (provided with the package)...I think it is a very nice feature to have.
The provided scope rings are the few ones I saw left with still 4 bolts per ring...they are tough.
They hold zero perfectly...and return to zero between changes....so far no problems at all....Would I use one for a professional competition??? Probably not, however one of my range buddies has one in his Rem 700 300 Win Mag and he did quite well in "informal" long range shooting competiton contexts.
I heard some sporadic problems with a "bad batch" a year ago but they were promptly exchanged or repaired, again no question to ask.
Even today I took my 30-30, my Mauser 30-06 and my 338 WM to the range....had fun and the scopes did they job perfectly...
Buy it..you will be a happy camper...
If someone start to bad mouthing you about your "Chinese scope" tell them that even Leupold produces scopes in China....my expensive Leupold Magnetic boresighter is made in China...
Do you have any info to back up that statement? My 338 Win Mag doesn't think so.....why commenting on something you don't know?
I own 4 of them and going for the fifth.
They are installed on my Marlin 336 30-30, my two 30-06 and my Weatherby Vanguard 338 Win Mag...not exactly rimfire rigs.
The glass is decent, they are a bit heavy, finishing is very good for the price.
The carry lifetime warranty, no question to ask, and when you call customer service (I did because I wanted to buy a couple of extra plastic caps....they sent it for free...) you immediately get someone on the phone from the US that can actually understand English....
They are made by Crossman and they are dead serious in breaking into the market for affordable quality scopes.....the company says that the 4-16 X 40 has been proofed up to a 416 Rigby, recoil wise.
You cannot beat the features for the money....I read some complains that the turret adjustment can be a bit iffy...actually if people would take time to look at what they buy or at least read the instructions they could see that you can adjust the "crispness" of the turret adjustment with an hex key (provided with the package)...I think it is a very nice feature to have.
The provided scope rings are the few ones I saw left with still 4 bolts per ring...they are tough.
They hold zero perfectly...and return to zero between changes....so far no problems at all....Would I use one for a professional competition??? Probably not, however one of my range buddies has one in his Rem 700 300 Win Mag and he did quite well in "informal" long range shooting competiton contexts.
I heard some sporadic problems with a "bad batch" a year ago but they were promptly exchanged or repaired, again no question to ask.
Even today I took my 30-30, my Mauser 30-06 and my 338 WM to the range....had fun and the scopes did they job perfectly...
Buy it..you will be a happy camper...
If someone start to bad mouthing you about your "Chinese scope" tell them that even Leupold produces scopes in China....my expensive Leupold Magnetic boresighter is made in China...
Do you have any info to back up that statement? My 338 Win Mag doesn't think so.....why commenting on something you don't know?
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lobo9er
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nice pic saturno!
this weekend checked zero on my mossberg 590 12 guage still zeroed where i had it. did some fudging with it at 40 yards got it dead on. this weekend gonna try again but stretch out the range a bit out to 75 yardish. cousin gave it a shot 1st one smacked him in the fore head pretty good (eye relief is a bit close, only down fall) didn't mess up zero a bit. so far so good for me, on a 12 gauge with slugs none the less.
Ignition Override must have got into the wrong line at WalSmart looking for the scope
MY 590 12 ga hasn't minded it either
this weekend checked zero on my mossberg 590 12 guage still zeroed where i had it. did some fudging with it at 40 yards got it dead on. this weekend gonna try again but stretch out the range a bit out to 75 yardish. cousin gave it a shot 1st one smacked him in the fore head pretty good (eye relief is a bit close, only down fall) didn't mess up zero a bit. so far so good for me, on a 12 gauge with slugs none the less.
Ignition Override must have got into the wrong line at WalSmart looking for the scope
Saturno V, Thanks for that post! Thats what I was looking for, people who had actual experience with the scope. I just put one on my .22 and will get a chance to test it out this weekend, I'm hoping the additional magnification will keep me from having to rent a spotting scope at the range. With the good feedback from people who have this scope I'm thinking of picking up another one to go in place of the 3-9X40 I currently have on my 30-06, but I'm kinda afraid people would give me a hard time about it being overkill for deer hunting, lol.
I've had plenty of actual experience with them also. If you use them like a tactical scope (ie. dial in elevation) the knobs fail. They start off with 54-56moa of travel (the knobs move over 60moa but the recticle only moves for 54moa of it). If you dial the knobs up and down a couple times the last ~10moa of up actually moves the reticle up and right, depending on the scope, and you loose some travel also and are left with 25-30moa then. The great thing is Walmart takes them back for cash refund. I also took a new one out of the box and put on my 50bmg Bohica, it held 2 shots POI. I moved the knobs after that and they failed like others. Go buy one, cut the plastic case open with a razor blade so it will make it easier to return the scope. Mount it on something stable where you can see the reticle travel when you move knobs, take them up and down a couple times. Return to walmart for your ~$74 back.
Leapers sales the same scope for about the same price ($79). There really aren't other scopes with same features in same price range that are good either. The Bushnell 3200 10x tactical is great for $160. The $50-90 Intensity scopes lack mildots or target knobs but are worlds ahead of the centerpoints in glass quality.
Leapers sales the same scope for about the same price ($79). There really aren't other scopes with same features in same price range that are good either. The Bushnell 3200 10x tactical is great for $160. The $50-90 Intensity scopes lack mildots or target knobs but are worlds ahead of the centerpoints in glass quality.
AKElroy
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Am I the only redneck that likes to shoot stuff after dark?
Maverick223
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No you are the only redneck that didn't notice the spelling.
C5_nc
Never had that problem
I think you got one of the infamous "bad batch" and you should have returned to the company rather than Wal Mart for an exchange.
I use them for elevation all the time....and I did test all 4 of them for reticle adjustment issues before putting them on my rifles....I hope you know that you could adjust the crispness of the knobs with an hex key...that may have resolved some of your problem right there.
Mine (and others I know) have no issues at all
Fully coated lens, fog proof, shock proof and water proof
The zero locking rings is a nice feature not available in several scopes that cost much more
Now, putting that scope on a 50 BMG rifle (and a rather light one) sorry but, no offense, it was rather dumb.
And yes I know what a bad scope look like....the last one I saw was a brand new BSA self destructing on a 22....
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Flash!
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I have four of these scopes.... two on 308's, 1 on 17hmr, and 1 one .223..... they are excellent scopes for the money. Are they as good as a Leupold or Zeiss? of course not.... but they do what they are intended to do..... and they hold zero.. I have about 500 rounds thru one of my 308's and it is still holding zero from when I mounted it a year or so back. As I don't use these at dusk or early morning, I will not testify as to light gathering capabilities, but they work great for me in my mid day shooting.
+1
If you want a tactical scope capable of taking a 50 BMG beating or for very heavy duty/jungle warfare/ extremely harsh environment use look elsewhere.
Many people use them to harvest game very successfully or even the occasional/non professional 800+ yards shot.
sanjose
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Hi, I am planning to buy this centerpoint 4 16x40mm scope as well for a Sako A7 in 30-06. What are the better rings for it Burris Zee Signature or Warnes? Do not have a lapping tool.
Also whats height should I get...Low, medium or High?
Thanks!
Also whats height should I get...Low, medium or High?
Thanks!
TomADC,
don't you just love that .17!!! I have the same rifle with the same results. Love that Tackdriver!! Believe it or not, I've used it for yotes out to 210yrds. DRT with the 17gr V-Max.
"Illuminated Retcal"!! You guys crack me up!!!
Buy the scope keep the reciept. Use it till 90days don't like it take it back & get your money. I think you'll be happy with it though.
don't you just love that .17!!! I have the same rifle with the same results. Love that Tackdriver!! Believe it or not, I've used it for yotes out to 210yrds. DRT with the 17gr V-Max.
"Illuminated Retcal"!! You guys crack me up!!!
Buy the scope keep the reciept. Use it till 90days don't like it take it back & get your money. I think you'll be happy with it though.
BrocLuno
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Think I'll get one and see what the fuss is about. Hell, I have more scopes than rifles, but it never hurts to have another to compare with
I got an 06 that ought to give it its fair share of testing
I got an 06 that ought to give it its fair share of testing
nwilliams
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I have a CenterPoint 4-16 scope and one of the CenterPoint 1x34 red dot sights as well.
Really hard to beat for the price, far better than BSA or NcStar IMO.
Really hard to beat for the price, far better than BSA or NcStar IMO.
hardluk1
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I also have a Center Point 4-16 on my ruger custom 22 and it works just fine. been on about 7 months of shooting amost ever weekend till the snow started. Would i buy another ,YES
IdahoLT1
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sanjose said:
In my opinion, if you're spending $700-$800 on a hunting rifle, you should put a somewhat decent scope on it. Nikon monarchs, bushnell 4200 and Zeiss conquest all have excellent 3-9x40 scopes ~$300. You can find much better scopes for $50 more that the centerpoint.
Light transmission and durability(weather/water proof) are some of the most important things to consider when looking for a hunting scope. I'm sorry but a $70 scope can't compete.
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