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Center Point scopes any good??

Discussion in 'Shooting Gear and Storage' started by Brandon H., Dec 28, 2007.

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  1. Brandon H.

    Brandon H. Member

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    I went to Walmart the other day and noticed they have a new scope on the shelfs here, its a Center Point 3-9x40 scope, its got a mil-dot reticle, and looks realy realy nice. I did some searching and cant find much of anything on these scopes. I need to know if they are any good. I mean I did look through the scope and it seems pretty bright, but I want to know about durability. I know you get what you pay for, but this scope looks BA. It would go on a Remington 700 ADL, .243 win.
    You guys know anything about these scopes??

    http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000PS4CSS?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=dealtime-sg-mp-20&linkCode=asn

    Only reason im havent shot my rifle yet is beceause I cant afford a good scope yet, and I dont want to site in a cheap scope that will loose its zero quick. So I need some help, I just need something durable.
     
  2. rcmodel

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    Just another cheap Chinese no-name scope.

    I noticed it comes with Air-gun/.22 rings.
    That right there ought to tell you it probably won't last too long on a centerfire rifle.

    Besides, IMO: There is no scope that comes with a set of rings, flip-open lens covers, target knobs, adjustable Parallax, and sells for $60 bucks that would be worth wasting your time & ammo on.

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  3. MAX100

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    The Bushnell Banner scopes are pretty good for the price. I would save up and get a Bushnell 3200, Excellent scope for the money.


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  4. jpwilly

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    RC...I disagree. I purchased one and it works just fine. The optics are good (not great) I have mine on a Mossberg ATR 30-06. I figure a Cheap rifle deserves a Cheap scope. The combo shoots sub MOA. The scope delivers everything you can get on scopes costing as much as $200 with the same features. A basic Nikon or other quality scope will have better optics but not the same features in that price range. For $69 this scope is a bargin I say buy it and try it...if you don't like it take it back. Wal-Mart has a "Satisfaction" Guarantee you know.

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  5. rcmodel

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    Well, good for you.
    Sometimes you get lucky.

    It has been my experience with scopes like this that some of them are just fine, excellent in fact, and some of them just aren't worth a damn.
    Spotty quality control allows some to slip through the Chinese cracks and they sell them all at the same low price.

    I went through 2 very nice looking BSA air-rifle scopes last fall trying to find one that would zero/hold zero.
    Finally gave up and bought a $90 Bushnell, zeroed it in a few shots, and am highly satisfied with it.

    In the meantime, I had wasted several days, and spent $60 bucks on gas going back & forth to Cabala's to exchange junk BSA scopes.

    Had I been fighting the BSA's with a center-fire rifle instead of an air rifle, I would have shot up a couple hundred dollars worth of ammo trying to get one of them that worked.

    Couple that with a new shooter, that perhaps doesn't have a lot of confidence & skill in his shooting yet, and it can turn into a really expensive nightmare for him if he comes home with a bad one.

    My advice was, and still is, to start out with a scope of known quality & reputation, even if you have to save your penny's for a while to buy it.

    It will be cheaper in the long run if you know you are missing because of your shooting, and not because of a Chinese scope nobody ever heard of failing to zero/hold zero due to lousy quality control.

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  6. jpwilly

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    RC...I agree, some cheap scopes are just that while others can be a super value. As you said the quality can vary, time and money can be wasted too. Good advise would be get the "best" name brand scope you can afford or take your chances.

    That said my experience so far with the CenterPoint has been absolutely positive. I'd buy another one!
     
  7. Schleprok62

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    I'm in the "go for it" crowd also... I have one on my .22lr and it's been nothing but great!!! Holds zero... I think it's a GREAT entry level mildot AO scope... I'm actually thinking about getting another for the model Five Remmy...
     
  8. Blazegd

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    They aren't Chinese

    Here is the address for the manufacturer.
    7629 Routes 5 & 20
    East Bloomfield, NY 14443
    1-866-726-1122
    Perhaps this will enlighten you.
    They are made in USA about 30 miles from my home.
    And they are not intended just for airguns.
    :eek:
    ROCHESTER, New York, (January 11, 2007) - Crosman Corporation, a leading supplier of products for the shooting sports, will introduce CenterPoint Precision Optics, a new brand of riflescopes designed for big game, varmint hunting and target shooting. The new company, which will launch at SHOT Show 2007 in Orlando, Florida, will offer crystal clear optics, quality construction and all the newest features in the industry.

    According to Crosman president Ken D'Arcy, the new high performance brand will take Crosman to a new segment of the shooting sports industry. "CenterPoint Precision Optics will change the dynamics of hunting optics, far beyond airguns," he said. "These scopes are state-of-the-art and modestly priced. We will be very competitive at virtually every price point."

    CenterPoint will introduce three lines of riflescopes in a variety of sizes, magnifications and features. Its Power Class line offers 30mm, one-piece tube construction, large angled objective bells and fully, multi-coated camera quality lenses for maximum light transmission and the widest field of view. The range estimating Mil-Dot reticle, zero locking/resetting windage and elevation adjustments and dual illumination will allow the shooter to lock on the target at any distance and at a wide range of light conditions, for the most accurate shot. CenterPoint's Power Class scopes will be available in 3-12x44, 4-16x56 and 8-32x56 with varying features, retailing from $159.99 - $249.99.

    CenterPoint's Adventure Class line of riflescopes will offer a parallax free image at virtually any distance. This line of scopes features multi-coated lenses, side wheel, dual illumination, zero locking/resetting windage and elevation adjustments and range estimating Mil-Dot reticles, all built on a one-piece, precision machined tube for maximum durability. CenterPoint's Adventure Class will be available in 6x32, 3-9x40, 3-9x50 and 6-24x50 with varying features and retail from $79.99 - $159.99.
     
  9. Arctic Highlander

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    I can't speak as to quality as I haven't even taken it out of the box yet, but things may have changed; while it lists the same US address you gave on the box, immediately below that mine says Made In China. I ordered the 4-16x40 Adventure Class scope because all the sites that sell it list its Parallax as 3yds to Infinity and I wanted one that would focus down to 3yds (for an airgun). The box and Center Point web site however says 5yds to Infinity so I'm debating whether to return it.
     
  10. Pine Knob

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    If this scope will hold up on a springer airgun it should last forever on a centerfire.
    I have a RWS 54 springer and it has wrecked several good scopes.
     
  11. Owen

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    Blazegd, that doesn't mean they're made here, just that Crossman is importimng them.

    I don't thik its possible to make an optical device in the US for what these scopes are selling for.
     
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  12. macooley43

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    CenterPoint 4-16x40mm is amazing for the money, and well made

    I've been looking for a scope with a parallax adjustment for a while now. I've checked casually at wal-mart, my local shop, and dick's sporting goods. When I saw the name CenterPoint and had no idea who it was, I said to myself "I'm not going to buy that trash!" I came across it again on Wal-mart's website and saw 21 ratings at 5 stars, 2 ratings of 4 stars, and 2 ratings of 3 stars. When I saw that, I had to see if it was all that people were saying. Boy was I wrong! IT IS AWESOME!!! I felt bad at the range because my buddy who got me into shooting just paid $500 for his leupold, and he looked like someone ran over his dog.

    I saw someone say that they were worried about durability, but this scope seems very will made. Also, if I have a freak accident where I drop it down the side of a mountain, I can replace it for $70.

    Now that I've gotten some target practice with a parallax adjusting scope, I can't go back. Accurate, Clear, Perfect pictures that don't move when you change the angle of your eye by 1/10th. I tested it at 5 yards with my Ruger 10/22 and couldn't believe that I could get a clear picture at that distance. (Yes I know I didn't need a scope, but it also looks better at 50 than any scope I've ever used.) Picture is great at 100 and 200 yards as well.

    The other thing that I thought was a total gimic was the light up crosshairs. I never thought I would use them, but there is something about turning on the green or red light that makes mils so clear against the sight picture. That makes zeroing this scope is effortless as you can see exactly how much to adjust based on the crosshairs. I spent four hours at the range switching between a 30-06 and my Rugger 10/22 and I didn't want to leave because I was shooting so well.

    Add the flip open scope covers. I thought they were just to look cool, but they are pretty darn convenient.

    If you're looking for a cheap scope for your 22 and your budget is $50, save an extra $20 try this scope out. If you're looking for the best scope possible and your budget is $500, get this scope and use the other $430 to buy a new gun. Seriously, your $500 scope is embarrassing on a $300 gun. :)
     
  13. ntruax

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    I have one of the Center Point 3-9x40 scopes sitting here and it says "Made In China" on the package. It was $54.97 at Wal Mart. I am leaving now to return it and I might get the 4-16x40 Center Point. There is an early youth rifle season here in Michigan this weekend and I need a cheap scope for my kid to use on his new Browning BAR .270WSM. Hopefully it can withstand 20 or so rounds at least. :D
     
  14. DiverDown

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    I have two of them. One on a Marlin 60 and another on an M&P15.
    Both have had several hundred rounds fired without any problems.
     
  15. JTW Jr.

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    Have two , one on an AR15 and one on a 22 , after a year , no problems at all and they are pretty darn clear for the price.

    Another good cheap scope is the Mueller APV for around $120 shipped.
     
  16. ElrodCod

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    They are made in China.
     
  17. JTW Jr.

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    More than likely so are the majority of the components of the PC you are surfing on , and your point is ?
     
  18. ElrodCod

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    The point is to put to rest the notion that these things are US made. See post number 8 in this thread.
     
  19. deer killa

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    they stink just another rip of
     
  20. BIGDAVE54

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    I own 2..

    I own two of the CenterPoint 4x16x40mm Adventure Class scopes that I bought at Wal Mart. I have one mounted on my Savage model 64... 22 LR rifle that cost about $130 and I have one mounted on an older model 93 Savage .17 cal rifle that I bought off a guy with a broken stock for $100. I spent $42 on a new stock and replaced all screws and the trigger group for about $20. I have about the same amount invested in the .17 cal as if I had bought a new one,but I have an extra stock that I patched up and can play with painting and experimenting and an extra trigger group. The scopes have been flawless. I am not afraid of something made in China. Just like Japan a few decades back the Chinese are turning out better products in many areas. In my workshop I have a 7x12 minilathe that was made in China I paid $400 for. The chuck on the little lathe is made in Japan and very precise. The runout on the center of the chuck is less than one ten thousandth of an inch. The fact that the Chinese CAN build a great minilathe if they buy the chucks from Japan is not lost in my way of thinking. I would have to buy a PRAZI lathe from Germany to come close to the precision this little mini lathe has. The PRAZI starts at about fourteen thousand dollars. I can not afford to pay that for a little lathe for my hobbies. I just bought a H&R 45-70 single shot rifle and am thinking about mounting one of the CenterPoint 8x32x56mm Power Series scopes on it. I am not interested in snobbery or conspicuous consumption when it comes to guns or machine tools. I just want something that works. The CenterPoint Scopes work....nuff said.
     
  21. ChefKristian

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    I own one for my Marlin Model 60... It is a great scope for the money... Bought it at Dick's for $30. AR22 4x32mm that comes with mounting gear... I have put nearly 500 rounds since mounting the scope. For the money, hitting bulls eye at 100 yards with a 22lr after 3 tries... you can't beat the price... They say the scope is 100% waterproof, fog proof, and shock proof...
     
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    What are the internal adjustment in elevation for these centerpoints? Just wondering if they have enough elevation for 200 yds with a 22lr.
     
  23. Mags

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    Just bought the 4-16 Adventure Class. Yes it is made in China but for 70 bucks I thought I would try it out before dumping more money into a 550 dollar rifle. I was really impressed! All metal construction even on the adjustment knobs! Very clear scope and it has withstood my 308s recoil. Not as nice as others but what would you expect for 70 bucks. I always hate how people compare a 70 scope to a 400 dollar Leupold. IT IS WHAT IT IS and IT AIN'T WHAT IT AIN'T. Let's not make it something it is not. It is a cheap quality scope that holds zero and has a clear lens.
     
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    +1 w/Mags; have had excellent performance with these on a seriously hard-kicking 30'06 and then a .308 semi.

    $50 at Dick's... :)
     
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    Recently bought a custom Mauser in .308. Came with a nice set of intergal ring/bases, and I just "HAD TO GO TO THE RANGE--NOW!". Had two scopes in the drawer, but both of them with 50mm bell. Off to wally world--decisions, decisions--Tasco, Bushnell, and Centre Point. What the hell, I figure they are all throw aways, so I get the Centre Point 4x16x40 AO w/lighted reticle. Back home and even a 40mm bell is just "a hair" to big. Shimed front and rear, leveled every thing up torqued it down, couple minutes with the bore sighter. Finally, range bound. Long story short--about 400 rounds(and several months) 2 white tail, a "bunch" of pigs, and one scrawny yote,, that cheap POS Chinese scope is still sitting on that $900.00 Mauser. Go figure.
     
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