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Charles Daly High Power

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by denster, Jun 3, 2006.

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  1. denster

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    Picked up a new Daly High Power 9mm at the gun shop today. Seemed well put together and the price was right. Anybody have any experience with them?
     
  2. res1b3uq

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    Daly

    I had one for a while. Nice pistol. I sold mine becouse I was tired of keeping ammo for .380, 9mm , and .45's. Liked the .45's the best, so I sold the rest. I don't know what you paid for it, but I think you'll like it. And it is "made in U.S.A."
     
  3. jungle

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    It's assembled in the US, but most of the parts are made in Hungary. Not a bad stand in for the real thing if the price is right.
     
  4. Dienekes

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    Saw a couple at the company display at the NRA convention/exhibits the other week; the interesting one appeared to be stainless but the rep claimed it was hard chromed. Very attractive and seemingly well made gun. It had the big express sights on it which he said were a love/hate thing.

    I have looked at a few others and other than the sights (which I personally would change out) they seem pretty decent. I have a WWII tangent-sighted Inglis and a 1996 vintage Mk III BHP so some basis for comparison.
     
  5. chaim

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    I have thought about buying one but I haven't yet.

    I saw one at the shop when I bought my SIG 226 but I had other priorities at the time. It did look well made and well finished. If I bought one I'd probably occasionally bring it with me when out of state as a carry gun (I live in MD so I can only carry when out of state) so I'd probably leave the sights. The price was pretty decent for MD gun prices.

    MD does have a one gun a month law, I am picking up my 226 on Mon or Tues. I already bought my next gun online, a SIG 229 that I can't pick up for another month. If that Charles Daly Hi-Power is still there in 2 months I may buy it.

    I definately would like to hear your experiences with it and see what you think after a few range trips.
     
  6. denster

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    Thanks for all the input. Took it down for cleaning last night. Can't find anything not to like. Personnaly I like the express sights. Have them on a couple of other guns, easy for my old tri focals to see.
     
  7. bpisler

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    I had a CD hi power clone for a couple of weeks
    but i've already ent it down the road.Between
    the hammer bite and shooting several inches
    high at 15 yards i wasn't very fond of it.I will
    say it was 100% reliable and would shoot 2"
    groups at 15 yards.Fit and finish was quite
    good but i'am much happier with the FM clone
    i bought.I don't get hammer bite and it's a copy
    of the browning MK III so most aftermarket
    parts will fit the FM.There's a detective model
    from with a shorter barrel and slide (3 3/4"')
    thats a bit more compact.
     
  8. Sinbad

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    Cd HiPower

    Denster,......... they are keepers (qualified), excellent reliability, finishing (twice as clean as my FEG PJK on the inside), Groups great, but (qualifier) the XS sights are a matter of personal like and probably habit. I can't get use to them. Shipping it off next week to Novaks.


    Ken
     
  9. jwmiller

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    I have also been looking at these pistols. Davidsons has a sale on these at the moment for $330. That seems to be a good price to me, so I may just have to pick one up.
     
  10. Marshall

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    When you can by FN-HP's from CDNN for $399.00 to $439.00, I don't see too much of a reason to buy a Daly.
     
  11. wally

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    Or FEG or FM for that matter. OTOH someone recently posted they were out of FN Hipowers and only had .40 and the SFS guns left. Its possible they've got more now, but CDNN usually deals in "odd lots" and when they are gone they are gone.

    --wally.
     
  12. Marshall

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    Yep, they may only have .40S&W and SFS's now. I wouldn't let either one stop me from buying the real thing over a clone though, at those prices. Matter of fact, the SFS is rather appealing to me and the 40 Hi-Power is a pretty nice all around gun if you don't mind 10+1.
     
  13. wally

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    When I checked out an SFS HiPower at a gun show, it appeard you couldn't apply the safety by flicking it up with your thumb, you had to press the hammer back toward the slide which then moved the thumb lever up as the hammer came forward. This made me lose intrest in it. Its possible the one I looked at had something wrong, but I haven't had a chance to check out another yet.

    --wally.
     
  14. dogtown tom

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    That is exactly the way it is supposed to work.

    My FN Owners Manual does not refer to it as a thumb safety but as a "cocking lever".

    SFS simply allows you to carry hammer down until ready to fire. Then you thumb the cocking lever to go hammer up.

    The deals on the NIB FN Hi Powers w/SFS won't last forever. You can always swap out the SFS parts for standard parts.
     
  15. denster

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    Update

    Have over 500 rounds of a variety of ammo through the gun now without one bobble. Accuracy is excellent. 2" @25yds with better ammo and about 3.5" with the cheapo stuff. The express sights do what they are supposed to do. Quick acquisition. Not great for target work but adequate back to 50yds on a man size silluette. Trigger is a little heavy at 6.5lbs but crisp with no perceptable overtravel. For $340+tax this was a bargain.
     
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    FWIW, CDNN still has FN HP in 40S&W, polished blue with 2 10 rd mags for $400 (actually $399.99 not $399). And they still have FN HP in 9mm, polished blue with SFS and 1 13 rd mag for $450.

    I have the FN 40S&W with SFS and I like it.

    I don't see the point of spending over $300 for a clone when you can have the real thing for a bargin price.
     
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    Same bunch

    FN is the same bunch that shut down the Winchester shop. Personally, I'll buy American made, thank you.(as long as I can)
     
  18. denster

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    Lets see here! $450 for the FN +$25 shipping+$20 to the FFL for paperwork that's $495. I guess if it's worth it to some to pay an extra $130 for the FN logo on the slide that's fine with me. Personally I'd rather spend it on ammo.
     
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    CDNN charges $10 for shipping and my FFL charges $10 for the transfer. So it's $450 + $10 + $!0, that's $470. Sounds worth it to me.
     
  20. denster

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    OK! So if you have a friendly FFL it's $100 for the name. If that is what you want more power to you. To me $100 is three contract mags and 500 rounds of 9mm. I still think the Daly is a bargain. You pay your money for what is important to you.
     
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    Looks like they've raised the price on the last ones, got mine from CDNN for $395 + $10 shipping and $10 transfer. Actually I got got my shipping free becasue I ordered three guns from them. Paid $410+tax for my FN .40 HiPower with three mags at a gunshow.

    But I agree as these FN guns run out the Daly looks like a pretty good substitute based on the ones I've seen at shows.

    --wally.
     
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    Ha! Then you'd better look somewhere other than Charles Daly for a Hi Power, bud. Charles Daly HPs are rebadged FEGs, the only difference is that final assembly is done in the US. That's not what I'd call "American made."

    That is a decent price for a pistol that works.

    Have you ever handled an FN? Ever seen inside of one? The difference between a CD and an FN is MUCH more than just a rollmark. Fit and finish between the two are not even in the same category -- especially when it comes to barrel/slide fit and safety/sear fit.

    You got a decent price on a pistol that works well, but people who go for FNs or Brownings are not fools, nor are they people with more money than sense. There is simply an immeasurable quality difference between the two -- that is worth more to some than a little ammo or a few magazines.

    You like your CD, and that's wonderful. I like my FN and my Browning, and that's okay too. Personally, I've owned an FEG, an FM-Argentine, a Browning, and the FN, and have handled and shot many of the other makes (like Inglis, Indian Ordnance, Charles D, Arcus), so I think that I'm pretty qualified to comment on this.

    People with FNs aren't foolhardy snobs.

    Wes
     
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    I never said or inferred that anyone with a Browning or a FN was a foolhardy snob.
    I retired two years ago after 35 years in Law Enforcement. For several of those years I carried a Browning HP as a primary on and off duty weapon. I've owned several Brownings (all good) over the years and one FEG (functional but not so nice). I've handled several FN's at the gun shows but haven't shot one. It's my not so humble opinion that the Daly is at least as well fit and finished as any of the Brownings I have owned, much better than the one FEG I owned, and somewhat better fit and finished than the FN's I have handled.
    Your experience and likes may differ from mine. Doesn't make either one of us a snob, or wrong, just different. After all isn't that what makes the world interesting?
     
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    denster,

    It's more than a bit odd you think the fit and finish on the Browning guns is better than the FN guns, because they are made at the exact same place, by the exact same people, using the exact same parts and equipment. All Browning marked Hi-Powers are made at the FN factory, and always were. The only difference between a Browning and an FN Hi-Power are the rollmarks.

    Why people pay a premium just to get the gun from a particular importer (which is all Browning is) is beyond my understanding. It's totally illogical. If you're getting a standard MkIII Hi-Power it's less expensive to buy the FN than the Browning, and they are the exact same gun.

    Now AFAIK, FN only makes the "Practical" for Browning, so if you want that particular model you're stuck paying the extra for the Browning name. However, I've never been fond of the chromed frame on the Practical, and don't get hammer bite from the standard hammer, so I have a couple of FN marked guns, one in 9mm and one in .40.
     
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    I am well aware of who manufactures the High Power. Apparently I wasn't completely clear in my post. The last new Browning HP I purchased was about 25years ago. IMO it and the previous ones I owned were better fit and finished than the recent Brownings. In any case I was comparing the Daly to what I have experienced and observed.
    I started this thread commenting on the Daly appearing to be a bargain for the quality delivered. I didn't intend to kick someones sacred cow in the udder.
     
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