That's nice to see. As someone who spent 4 years as a tribologist specializing in metal working fluids I recognize most of that equipment. Looks like they are on the right path. Now if only I could convince them to use the mwf I use to work on, it is damn good stuff.... .
I ordered all of my 4 S&W revolvers online. I guess I got lucky, or maybe if I let some of the people on gun forums inspect them, they could find problems I don't see. IDK... I do hear a lot of QC complaints about those who purchased their S&W revolvers brand new, so I wonder if I'm just lucky or not. Then on the otherhand, lots of people (the majority) swear by S&W revolvers old and new above all others.I have a dozen or so Charter Arms revolvers. About twice that number of S&Ws.
Last two new production S&W revolvers I bought, had to be returned to the factory brand new out of the box. They were that bad. Here's a pic of my latest S&W Model 36 Classic, right out of the box:
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In the same time period, I've purchased three brand new Charter Arms. They all work just fine, and without any production flaws:
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You cannot buy a new S&W revolver without a personal inspection. Forget ordering online, it's crap shoot. All the above Charters were ordered sight unseen.
A properly made and inspected current production S&W is - depending on model - aesthetically nicer to look at and appears more "finished". The engineering, especially on the Classics, is very good... but QC in Springfield has been falling steadily.
You do get what you pay for when it comes to aesthetics. You will see some tool marks and less-contoured angles on Charters. But they are functional and effective, at less than half the price. The latest Charter revolvers are very good, with tight lockup and good trigger pulls. Most of their models have gone over to aluminium frames, so you are not going to get the same long-term 20-year durability as steel. Yet they are all covered by a lifetime warranty.
You are also not going to find the range of models and calibres in small revolvers from anyone else, eg. .44 Special and .32 H&R Magnum. I personally prefer the grip frame shape on the Charters to the S&W J frames.
Like I said they are the company you want to love so much, but...For all the poor QC that Charter has lately, I still have to give them credit in they are one of the few companies that has supported .32 H&R and .44 Special for years and still is producing revolvers in those calibers.
It's not about ramping up, it's about meeting demand and dealing with high turnover rates. Charter's biggest competition is Taurus and the biggest selling point is Made in USA, the problem is Charter's quality is inferior to Taurus and apparently the turnaround time for repairs is reaching old Taurus levels all on a product (the revolver) which has quickly gone out of fashion the last 10-20 years.In the 20+ years I have been frequenting gun forums I have heard a lot of negative things all those years about Charters. But the sell guns and stay in business. I have old 3 inch Bulldogs to newer 44's with no issues. They are easily worth their price point. They could finish them better and upgrade their parts but most probably wouldn't want to spend 1-2 hundred more for them. With all the ramping up manufacturers have done these past few years making errors is just a part of increased manufacturing. Same thing happens in every industry.
$400 is too much for a used CA. A local shop has a used CA for $295 and one for $265. I was looking for an older one without the ramp front sight, being I have a factory spurless hammer for one. Unfortunately the one I wanted had a huge scratch on the left side.My LGS has had an old Stratford stainless "undercover" 2" model for quite a while. It's marked $400+ and I considered it until he showed me a pre model 10 snub.
I tried a CA Bulldog made in Sheldon, it was a POS I sent it back to CA. CA sent me back the same POS I'm done with Charter ArmsWhat's the consensus on Charter Arms revolvers? Good or bad?
For the last few years there has been far more demand then production capabilities. And every commercial firearms manufacturer has been ramping up production. The number of sales has been higher then years past. After decades of working in manufacturing I see the same thing in every industry. Accelerating production leads to increased errors being made. And the acceptable amount of errors goes up as the profits role in as it is deemed worth it.It's not about ramping up, it's about meeting demand and dealing with high turnover rates. Charter's biggest competition is Taurus and the biggest selling point is Made in USA, the problem is Charter's quality is inferior to Taurus and apparently the turnaround time for repairs is reaching old Taurus levels all on a product (the revolver) which has quickly gone out of fashion the last 10-20 years.
Charter is in a real pickle.
I bought a Pitbull in .380 – it felt cheap, flimsy, and poorly made.Last two new production S&W revolvers I bought, had to be returned to the factory brand new out of the box.