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Cheap bulk 9mm

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by gotigers, Oct 31, 2011.

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  1. gotigers

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    I am looking for some cheap 9mm bulk ammo for plinking and practice. I shoot local 3 gun and other matches. The cost of ammo hurts the more i shoot. I have found some cheap .223 for the AR, now i need to find some cheap 9mm. I like brass, but i am having a hard time beating the wally world price for brass. I can get wally world federal 100 round bulk box for under $20, 20 cents per round. After shipping i can't find any bulk brass online that beats it.

    My question: How is the steel cased 9mm? Silver Bear, Brown Bear, Wolf, etc? I shoot Wolf .223 without issue, but have no experience with it in 9mm.
     
  2. kk0g

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    You're shooting 3 gun matches and still buying factory ammo!?!? I'm sure you've probably heard it before but start reloading man!

    To answer your question I've shot all the 9mm steel cased ammo and Tulammo also in my XDm with zero issues, works just fine.

    Go to ammoseek.com to find who has the cheapest ammo. It's a search engine that you can input caliber, bullet weight etc.
     
  3. ku4hx

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    Ammo Engine; hundreds of sources.

    http://www.ammoengine.com/find/ammo/9mm

    But for what you're likely paying for factory to practice and shoot three-gun you might want to consider a minimal hand loading setup.
     
  4. 97guns

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    i have 3700 rounds of russian 9mm coming from sportmans guide for $7.39 a box delivered to my door.
     
  5. beatledog7

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    This thread convinced me to buy a set of 9mm dies.
     
  6. Dogguy

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    I like Brown Bear at whatever is the cheapest price you can get it. My favorite 9mm range ammo is Geco but Geco has been kind of hard to find lately. Tried Brown Bear and it's more than acceptable. Feeds perfectly in all my Glock and SIGs. Buy it cheap and stack it deep.
     
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    Just as soon as I get done with the "honey do" list I will start loading 500 rounds of 9mm later today.
     
  9. Fishslayer

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    There's a reason you've heard it before and will hear it again, at least until you reach Jerry Miculek levels and have forklifts stacking pallets of sponsors' ammo in yer driveway! :D



    Ummm... yeah... I'm gonna go ahead & take a pass on that... M'kay? ;)
     
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  10. gotigers

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    Roverboy: What are gonna charge for it and shipping? lol.

    How much time does it take to load 500 rounds with your loader?

    What did your reloader set up cost?

    I haven't thought about reloading and i am not sure if i want to. I guess i can toss the idea around and punch in some numbers on cost.
     
  11. Get R Done Guns

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    Are you going to be able to catch all of your brass? If not reloading is pointless. Huge time involvement and if you can't catch most every piece you are not really saving money.
     
  12. Dogguy

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    Reloading is something you have to really like to do. Yeah, you save money doing it. But you have to make an investment up front in equipment and materials, then you have to invest a considerable amount of time in the actual process. And, as Get R Done Guns points out, you also have to take the time after every range session to root around for your spent cases (or shoot revolver only). I've reloaded before and I did not like doing it. I'm an old guy now, it hurts my back to bend over picking up stuff off the ground and I ain't got that much time left anyway.
     
  13. Feanor

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    They are selling Winchester 124 gr 9mm ball(Nato)everywhere on line for about $120.00 a case, or less. I would go that route before committing an ongoing budget to cheap steel cased ammo.
     
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    Agulia isn't bad $9 a box brass. I've shoot thousands of rounds of tula steel 9mm only had a few problems with it not my favorite round but they work.
     
  15. ku4hx

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    I've been reloading and casting boolits since 1970 and at the time I got the bulk of my gear prices were low, factory fodder was junk and reloading saved a lot of money. Not to mention the advantage of custom made high quality ammo. And for obsolete weaponry it may be your sole source of ammo. Then there's the customization aspect.

    I fire between 10,000 - 15,000 rounds per year (average over the years) so I've loaded my share. But hand loading is a hobby and a labor of love. Being a hobby like say, golf, there's no way you can justify costs. It's what you do that gives you pleasure and a sense of accomplishment among other things. It's like the Rolls Royce salesman told the prospective buyer, "If you have to ask how much it costs, you can't afford it."

    Over the last few years, mostly because of rising ammo costs, several people have approached me about them getting into hand loading. I sit down with them, get an idea of what they want to do and calculate the equipment and material cost to load their first 100 rounds. The last time I did this was with my son-in-law and he was looking at $6.00 per final loaded rifle round. He simply didn't shoot enough to make it anywhere near a reasonable deal. $300 - $400 can buy the occasional deer hunter a good bit of ammo. And it doesn't take you away from your wife and 5yo son either. There is such as thing as "one hobby too many".

    But hey, hand loading and casting are wonderful hobbies. And for me it's a craftsmanship adventure too. So if you got the cash, the place to do the deed and time to learn the craft safely then go for it. Just beware, once you fire your first batch of ultra reliable and accurate stuff you're going to be hooked for life. Catalogs will start showing up at your house, you'll start to get backaches from bending and stooping to pick up brass, any brass, and your wallet will be thinner and a good bit lighter. Which I feel is just therapy for that aching back.
     
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    Check out cheaperthandirt.com and look for the BVAC 1000 round lots, last I saw it was $180.
     
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    Some good advice in here on the reloading side. IMO 9mm is not a round that saves much money at the reloading bench. I have done the math many times over the last year and rifle ammo, 45 colt, and 10mm are the only rounds that would quickly recoup the investment in a reloading setup for me. So for now I continue to buy off the shelf or online.

    Back to the OP's question...
    Cheaper than Dirt is hard to beat online (but some can)
    I would recommend finding out who moves a lot of guns and ammo within driving distance. I have 2 shops that do volume and even wholesale to other shops here in N.AL. They are substantially cheaper than online, especially on bulk ammo.
     
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    Not the experience I've had. Even the cheapest 9mm brass ammo runs about $9.50 per box of 50.

    Now, looking at reload costs:

    $15 for a lb of Titegroup. That'll do about 1400 rounds of 9mm.
    $79 for 1000 Precision Delta FMJ's.
    $30 for 1000 CCI Primers
    Normally I reuse or get range pickup brass, but I'm going to assume actually buying used brass which runs about $30 per 1000.

    So for a box of 50:
    $0.54 powder
    $1.50 primers
    $3.95 bullets
    $1.50 brass

    Total for 50 rounds: $7.49. That's $2 per box saved when using pretty high quality stuff AND buying once-fired brass. If you do save your brass then drop the cost down to around $6 per 50.

    Now, lets go really cheapskate:

    8lb Alliant Promo Powder $90 (will do about 12,000 rounds)
    125gr Bayout Bullets $67/1000
    Wolf Primers $22.50 per 1000
    Brass - reuse or range pickup

    $0.38 Powder + $3.35 bullets + $1.13 primers = $4.86 per box of 50.

    Now you're approaching half the price of factory ammo. I'll readily admit that 9mm doesn't show as much of a savings compared to some other rounds, but it's still plenty enough to be economically wise. Trust me, you'll find VERY few competition shooters (besides sponsored guys getting it for free) who shoot factory ammunition. Heck even the guys who are sponsored tend to use tailored loads from places like Atlanta Arms simple due to the fact that a lot of the mass-produced factory stuff tends to be rather inconsistent.
     
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    I wasn't saying that reloading doesn't save money in 9mm, moreso that it would take a lot of rounds to recoup the cost of a loading setup. 10mm and 45 colt definitely have my attention though :)
     
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    went to the range yesterday, the rangemaster calls cease fire and tells me "you guys must be rich". i ask why and he says because you havn't run out of ammo yet. i am rich but none the less that was quite the compliment. the moral of the story is buy it cheap and stack it deep and that i am rich.
     
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    I like (or did like) BVAC. That said the last time I shot my favorite load .223 BVAC 69 grn HPBT one spent casing came out of my bolt gun in two pieces.
    Not sure about their quality any more.
     
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    I reload around 10,000 rounds of 9mm a year, 4k or so of 147g competition loads, and the rest being 124g practice/plinking loads, and over the course of the year, I save a huge amount just on 9mm. I shoot 2gun and IDPA almost every weekend.
    Where you really start saving money is when you start loading 45ACP, 45COLT, 357Mag, ect, those save a ton of money. When you get into high dollar rifle stuff, you save even more, but really if you are shooting 2gun often, get a turret or a progressive and you will see the savings sooner or later and you will be happy.
     
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    I can't really beat WWB $10/50 prices for 9mm w/o reloading, but I do have an intermitten source for high quality Dynamit Nobel 124gr FMJ at very close to WWB prices.

    Ammo that I buy, I buy with an eye for nice once-fired brass to feed my reloading habit.
     
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