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Cheap revolvers

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by jparham, Dec 11, 2006.

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  1. jparham

    jparham Member

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    What are some of the cheapest revolvers on the market? I've heard that the Windicator's and Comanche's are pretty cheep. What are their MSRP and thier going prices? Same for Charter 2000.
     
  2. ugaarguy

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    CZ. 22, If you want inexpensive get a used S&W Model 10. For the last 100 years (known as the M&P from 1899 to 1957) they've been the .38 revolver. S&W has made countless numbers of them, so they're common which keeps the price down. They can be found most anywhere in the US for $200 or less. They're are a top notch firearm in every respect too. Take a look Jim March's revolver checkout thread stickied at the top of this forum and you can easily evaluate one yourself. There are large numbers of former police revolvers with finish wear from years in a holster that are perfectly fine mechanically - pretty don't make it shoot better, just makes it cost more. Get yourself a model 10 while they're still available at these prices.
     
  3. MCgunner

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    Cheap revolver? You didn't specify SA or DA. I saw a Heritage .44 mag a while back at a gun store for under 200 bucks, but I think it was used. Looked like new, though. I really don't pay attention to the uber-cheap like Comanche revolvers. Low as I go is Rossi, decent gun for the money. You can get a new in box Rossi blued .38 for around $225 I think I saw it for at Academy Sports. I don't know what MSRP is on it. Taurus has been good for me, also.

    Everyone always says get a used M10, they sell 'em for under 20 bucks. Well, I tell ya, when I HAVE found any K frame smith for sale used at the gun shows and shops around here, they've been more like $300, even a M10. You cannot get one cheap here. You can probably order 'em cheap from somewhere if you have an FFL, but buy one cheap around here is impossible. I really wanted a 3" K frame something at the last gun show I attended, but settled for a used Taurus M66 3", tight, shoots fantastic, but does have a bit of holster wear. I got it to carry, though. Would I rather have had a M19? I don't know now that I've fired this Taurus. I don't think a 19 could be as accurate. I know the one I had wasn't. But, when I was looking, I'd probably have paid a hundred more than the $180 I gave for the Taurus just to get a Smith M19. But, they were all up near $400 or more. :rolleyes:

    I tell ya what, that Taurus a super shootin' gun for what I gave for it. They don't seem to bring the premium used around here because they're not Smith and Wessons. So be it. I'm not that much of a gun snob that I can't appreciate a good gun for a great price when I see it.
     
  4. Ala Dan

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    Probably one of the best inexpensive revolvers on the market
    is the Rossi 971, 4" barrel, blue steel, .357 magnum. Priced NIB at $269~!:D
     
  5. Confederate

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    Ah, the Llama Comanche was a fascinating gun. I never saw one that passed muster and I remember they smelled like cheap oil. They all had either large b/c gaps, loose cylinders or end shake. I bought three of them one time hoping to keep the best one for my collection, but all three of them were way out of spec. On some of them, the cartridges would slide out and bind, not letting the firing pin hit the primer properly. Firing straight ahead was easy enough, but if you tilted the gun up it wouldn't shoot!

    One of the absolutely best deals around today are the Ruger Security-Six. You can get them for as little as $300 in excellent condition (compared to about $500-600 for excellent Smith 66s). Rossi revolvers are acceptable and some Taurus models might be okay.

    The Astra was a cheapo revolver that was quite good for the money, but they go for about $300, too, which makes the Rugers a much better buy.
     
  6. Harry Paget Flashman

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    Recently bought some decent inexpensive revolvers via the Internet/FFL route:
    Centerfire Systems...Armscor Model 200 .38 SPCL $159. New
    Century Arms...Astra NC-6 .38 SPCL ~ $150. Used
    CDNN...Polish Gward .38 SPCL $139.(Bought 4 of them! Nice guns.) LNIB

    All were 4" barrel. A used S&W Model 10 can be had for a decent price. Everyone needs one. I had a friend 30 years ago who owned one that had been re-machined for .357 Magnum and he's still shooting it as far as I know. It's a testimony to the Model 10's construction. I wouldn't recommend it though.
     
  7. XavierBreath

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    I totally agree with ugaarguy.

    There is cheap, and there is a heckuva bargain. Which one do you want?
     
  8. MCgunner

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    +1. I had one in stainless. It was light enough for carry, barely over 30 ounces. Was small, sort of half way between J and K frame in size, yet did not have excessive recoil even with full power magnum loads. It was reasonably accurate and while not Smith and Wesson quality, the DA trigger wasn't bad. It times perfectly and was tight when I bought it, tight when I traded it. When I bought that Taurus 66 the other day, I was thinking I'd look for either a used Smith or a Rossi 971. They didn't have many Rossis at that little podunk gun show. What I really like about the 971 is its light weight combined with its shootability. It's almost as compact as a Ruger SP101, yet holds six rounds. Ain't as tough as the Ruger, of course, but the trigger is better and it seemed to hold up well. I fired a lot of hot stuff in that gun.
     
  9. ugaarguy

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    Confederate, I think we're dealing with regional price differences. Before I deployed in Sept. S&W M66s were going at about $375 in VG to EX cond. in most every reputable shop in Boise. I have not bought a gun from him, but I've read several good reports on Mark at Summit Gun Broker. Take a look at these $270 S&W M65s http://www.summitgunbroker.com/1252018.html.

    Like McGunner, and others have said, Taurus/Rossi still offers a nice lineup of wheelguns at very reasonable prices. Personally I'd rather look for a good price on a Smith or Ruger if I'm not in a hurry. A little patience, a little time with the Shotgun News, and a little time searching the web can yield some true bargains.
     
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    My expeience line up with MCGunner.
    I looked for years for one of those mythical $200 smiths, and I finally found a security six for $200, the first american revolver I saw for under $250.

    I have owned a Windicator .357. Decent gun, very heavy and clunky, heavy trigger, but worked fine. Paid $130 and for that price I think it was a great deal.

    I one bought a new in box Ruger SP101 9mm for $260:D
    the dealler said it had been on thier shelf for five years, and I got there just in time when they seriously marked it down to get it out of inventory.
    I did have to send it back to the factory though, there was no barrel cylinder gap, and the cylender would bind after about 10 shots.:banghead:

    Bargains are out there, but you have to really look, and be open minded.
     
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    You want cheap, you can buy a used Rohm RG for just a few dollars. However I've always found that you get what you pay for.
     
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    I've got to to read the reviews of the Gward again, $139 is appealling indeed.

    I rarely see K-frames marked under $200 here, but have bargained quite a few down over the last year or so.

    -- Colt Police Positive for $125 OTD at a pawnshop (worn but functioning 1919 model)

    -- S&W M&P, $110 from an old lady who was selling her collection to a local store, who only offered her $100 for it

    --S&W 10-6 4", $175 local pawnshop



    Their website is down currently, so you have to call them and ask what they have, but Vivas and Sons often has S&W M&Ps and Model 10s for $150-175. Add $10 for shipping, $15-25 for FFL, and you just might come in under $200.

    I bought a used Rossi for $99 OTD at a pawnshop, but if I were going any higher than $150 I'd just order from Vivas, or get a Polish Gward.

    -MV
     
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    Vivas & sons

    Matthew -

    Got a phone number?
     
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    Site is back up, but inventory list is down, says to call w/ questions.

    When list was up, they had easily 50-60 S&W .38Spl revos, many very affordable.

    http://www.vivasandson.com/


    To find a good FFL dealer, go to www.gunsamerica.com and use their "FFL Finder" search-engine. $25 is considered standard outside of CA, etc.

    -MV
     
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    According to my old pal Jim, gone now these many years: "You don't always get what you pay for, but you never get what you don't pay for."
     
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    I agree with MCgunner. Get a retired police Model 10 .38. They are generally in great shape, with ony finish wear. They are the gold standard of .38 service revolvers.
     
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    Yep, it's probably more accurate to say that you don't get what you don't pay for, but I have a perfectly good Jennings J-22. It only jams after four clips full of ammo, when it gets dirty. I wish I'd bought a boatload of those guns when I had the chance. Best gun deal ever. Sigh.

    I've never seen a good cheap revolver. (And by cheap I mean in the RG class.) Oooops, I take it back. RG did put out a decent .22LR single action cowboy gun. If I had it to do all over again, I'd start a collection of el cheapo handguns.
     
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    Century Arms has Smith model 10s for $175.....

    I bought one a month or so ago. It looks rough but mechanically its in great shape....shoots great.

    I was going for a vintage, well used duty revolver theme here.....did I pull it off?


    Smith service grips and Tyler T-grip (both well worn to match the gun) along with a Don Hume duty holster and speedloaders.

    vintagecarry.jpg
     
  20. MCgunner

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    Nice HB 10 for the money. If I still had an FFL, I might order one, but I like that bobbed hammer one better. I have a HB M10 anyway, danged great shape. It's been in the family for 40 years and has sentimental value as well as being a fantastic shooter. I've never carried it, usually got something lighter and smaller in .38 special. I've shot and won local matches with it, though.
     
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    aaronrkelly,

    Yes. What a great gun!
    For $175, nothing else touches the quality of that gun, the stories it could tell if it could talk, the design, proven history , metallurgy, attention to quality ...etc.

    Folks spend twice , three times the money today on a new gun and only get 1/4 the gun that Model 10 is for their money.

    Now go find a OLD Shrade, or Case pocket knife , Call box key to post with this/these guns in pictures. :)
     
  22. MCgunner

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    Yes, older is always better. That's why I'm trying to buy a period wheel lock for CCW and bargaining on a Model T for transportation. :rolleyes: :D Day jist don' make 'em like day used to.

    Sarcasm aside, I appreciate the Model 10, but I feel sometimes we get a little carried away with the "older is better" thing. :D No doubt about it, though, the M10 is still a viable, strong, accurate, reliable, well made firearm.

    Sometimes I visualize the future generations saying, "Yeah, they just don't make 'em like they did back in the MIM/frame lock days. Those were the best built revolvers." Then I think about the past when our grandfathers probably had conversations like "Yeah, they just don't make these POS new fangled DA revolvers like they did back when the Patterson came out. And what's this autoloading crud? What junk! Is the military crazy?" :D

    Oh, I have an old Schrade Uncle Henry and a Buck 110. Neither one of 'em will cut butter. I prefer my Gerber, lighter, sharper, holds and edge, easy to grip and not slip.
     
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    I have enjoyed my $300 Taurus M66 6" It shoots great and looks nice too. I haven't seen a blue finish like the one on the taurus since I sold my Python. :(
     
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    What pawnshops in Austin have these deals? I only find the ones with Glocks that look like they've been dragged down 50 miles of gravel road for the bargain price of $599.

    I'd love to find a Police Positive for $125.
     
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    Windicators and Comanches are in my opinion not worth owning, not when a good used DA Ruger or Smith can be had under $300 (and often way under that).

    The last Comanches I saw were on display by the importer at the Reno NRA convention. Quality was breathtakingly bad. Metal-to-metal fit was done by a drunk chimpanzee or something. And if that's what they had to *display*, they were probably cherry picked. I can't even imagine what "normal" ones look like. The only way I'd fire the ones I saw was with a bench vice and 100yds of string.

    The Windicator is supposedly a bit better but at least one reviewer shot one loose in about 2,000 rounds of moderate 357. The metalurgy is questionable at best.

    In stark contrast:

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976782404.htm - the "old series" Ruger DA, fixed sight.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976797079.htm - same as above, adjustable sight. Rugers are a particularly good deal because within reasonable limits, Ruger will fix 'em free forever regardless of new/used status.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976768835.htm - this one is a hoot, been modded to where it has no collector value but hey, with a different set of grips it'll make somebody a great defensive friend...given the "target nature" of the mods it probably has a trigger to die for.

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976760408.htm - old Hong Kong police gun, most of these were seldom shot. Late model, +P compatible, awesome 3" barrel, round butt conversion, what's not to like?

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976806680.htm

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976683155.htm - this and the previous are "pencil barrel" models which shoot much better than you'd expect, very fast pointing fighters.

    Most are absolutely classic "holster wear cherries" - at $250 and less they're better guns that will outshoot and outlast anything made by Taurus, Rossi, Windicator, Comanche, etc.

    Now granted, I'd want to try and find something like that locally, dealer or gunshow or whatever so I could check it out in detail. But with the "checkout procedure" available and guns like these on the market, there is just NO excuse for buying brand new junk.
     
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