Check out Ruger's new rifle...

[RhinoDefense]

Looks like a Tikka with a Savage trigger.

 

[willypete]

Personal opinion, but the '06 version would benefit from having a 24" barrel. At 22", the '06 and .308 are equal performers. 150- and 165-grain bullets, anyhow.

Huh? I'd like to see your chrony results...

Not saying that .308 and .30-06 aren't so close as doesn't matter to whatever's getting shot (who cares about 200 fps when you're near 3000?), but even with lightweight bullets and a 22" bbl, .30-06 is gonna have a velocity advantage.

 

[benzy2]

The problem I have is that the sub $450 price range is saturated with quality rifles. Ruger has a rather black and blue past about accuracy in multiple lines. Things seems better in more recent rifles but with all the other options that have shown to shoot well in this price range it wil take a while of many solid reviews to displace the current cream. With names like the Stevens, axis, venture, vanguard, as well as sales on savages, remingtons, tikkas, etc it will take a rifle that consistently performs to make the ruger a value.

 

[Abel]

with all the other options that have shown to shoot well in this price range it wil take a while of many solid reviews to displace the current cream. With names like the Stevens, axis, venture, vanguard, as well as sales on savages, remingtons, tikkas, etc it will take a rifle that consistently performs to make the ruger a value.

Agreed.

 

[MuleRyder]

First thought is synthetic eh, I know they have their place, but I like walnut and blued steel. I have a M77 with tang safety, which I don't mind, except that it locks both the trigger and the bolt when on. I don't care for that. I like the three position safety on my M70 right there on the bolt where it belongs.

 

[Abel]

I like the three position safety on my M70 right there on the bolt where it belongs.

I never knew that the safety belonged on the bolt. Growing up, I used Browning A-Bolts. Another case of blissful ignorance.

 

[Smith357]

It's nice to see everyone's got their mind made up about the rifle's quality (or lack thereof) before ever actually seeing one.

I saw the pictures of the one they gave Jeff Quinn, go to Gunblast.com and see the machine marks on the receiver, the mold marks on the stock, the ill fitting plastic magazine, plastic trigger guard, et, et. et. This from a rifle you know Ruger made perfect, as it was being shipped to a respected internet gun writer for a review.

 

[Abel]

go to Gunblast.com and see the machine marks on the receiver, the mold marks on the stock, the ill fitting plastic magazine, plastic trigger guard, et, et. et.

Did you not see the 5/16th inch group? You left that part out.

This from a rifle you know Ruger made perfect, as it was being shipped to a respected internet gun writer for a review.

Does this mean that you don't want one?

 

[Smith357]

Did you not see the 5/16th inch group? You left that part out.

I saw it, does that mean all those fine open sighted lever action rifles that print 2 inch groups are now junk?

The other marketing ploy you forgot is it's lightweight, I suupose you saw the hollow plastic stock. Did I mention the gun very light?


Sorry but for a $400-$450 .30-06 I'll keep buying rifles like these. And they came with scopes already mounted. They all shoot right at 1 MOA so I hope I don't miss that moose.

 

[Fullboar1]

Hey look an American copy of a Finnish rifle (with some Savage add ons). I do like the Tang saftey and the 1/10 twist in 308 and the 1/9 in 243.

 

[Big Bad Bob]

So its a Savage-Tikka-Sako Copy and somehow this makes its "American" and an "Engineering Innovation" ??? I dont get it. Did the gun market really need another budget bolt gun that isnt that much different from what is already out there? Rotary mags arent all that great.

I guess its true, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

If I were in the market for another synthetic black bolt gun,(which I am not) I would probably just get a Tikka T3 Lite over this thing.

 

[HOOfan_1]

Did the gun market really need another budget bolt gun that isnt that much different from what is already out there? .

Did the gun market need any more polymer striker fired pistols when Smith and Wesson came out with the Sigma, or the M&P or when Walther came out with the PPQ?

Did the gun market need another AR-15 when Smith and Wesson came out with the M&P?

Did the gun market need another 1911 clone when STI, SIG, Smith and Wesson etc. etc. etc. brought theirs out?

Shame on Ruger for trying to tap into a growing market and trying to make money where other companies are cleaning up. Shame on Ruger for giving buyers another choice. Shame on Ruger for bringing out more competition to help keep prices down. :banghead:

 

[Big Bad Bob]

I can see where you are coming from HOOfan1, but at least having something be different about it, if you are going to claim "Innovative" at least have something that is innovative about it.

This is a shameless copy, its a hodgepodge of one companies trigger and another's action and even stock pattern, similar to the S&W copying the Taurus Judge. Its a joke to call it the "American" rifle when all it is made in America. They ought have called it the "Chinese" rifle, since thats all their companies can do is copy others designs and call it theirs.

Business is business, and I understand wanting to offer fans of your company a similar offering in the market to compete in the budget rifle category. Got it. Doesn't mean I have to like it or approve of their version. The only Ruger offering I want to see is a budget version of the Ruger Number 1.

 

[R.W.Dale]

Looks like a Tikka T3...

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Bet it won't shoot as good out of the box.......

Did you see the test groups.

With an MSRP of $450 (which is less than a tikka retail) street price will be real close to $300

Honestly guys! I want to know how you make a new bolt action in the 21'st century that doesn't borrow some design elements employed in other models.

Last I checked a Mustang and Prius both have the motor up front and have four wheels. Does that make the Prius a copy of a mustang.
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[Coal Dragger]

About the only innovative and unique bolt action I can think of that was introduced in the last 30 years has been the Blaser R93 and now R8. That's it.

 

[Big Bad Bob]

The Accutrigger was a unique and innovative trigger system first brought to the market by Savage in 2002, apparently that was a game changer given the amount of other companies copying its design including this new offering from Ruger.

I see yalls point, we could say basically all modern bolt guns copy the Mauser brothers designs in some form but to me this offering is more than a borrow but a copy. It looks as though they looked at Tikka T3 lite, put a Savage trigger on it and said its made in America, and Bam! its a new innovative design from Ruger called the American Rifle? Really? Even the stock pattern is the same as the Tikka......

To me this is like Chevy rolling out a version of the Mustang changing the rims and calling it a Camaro.

 

[tikka-guy]

I suupose you saw the hollow plastic stock

You say that like it's a bad thing. Can we please stop using "plastic" as a derogatory term describing materials? I'd take a "plastic" stock anyday... it's more durable, more forgiving to weather, and lighter. I suppose you still use wooden arrows too?
It's not like they went down to the tupperware factory and modified one of the container presses to start pumping out rifle stocks.

There are some similarities between this rifle and some others on the market. I'm not a big fan of the 'accutrigger-style' trigger. There are a few things that are Tikka-like, such as the stock, the ejection port, and hexagonal receiver. But I'd say lending some design from Tikka is probably a good way to go.
I don't design firearms for a living, but I think it'd be foolish to design a bolt action rifle without lending some ideas and designs from others. It's a bolt-action rifle folks, it's not new, it's not radical, at least not in a budget line.

 

[LoonWulf]

Theres my thoughts, and what I see as the point to this rifle. Ruger dosent have a "low end" gun. These offer folks who are either unwilling, or unable to purchase a ruger hawkeye or other new ruger a chance to shoot/own one. From a sales point It SHOULDNT be as nice as a more pricey ruger, or really any other higher end gun, it should be a stepping stone for a "better" rifle, or a gun that some one buys as a beater.

If you like decent wood and metal, the 500 dollar price range is no longer a place to look for a rifle it seems.

 

[Eb1]

I think they offer a decent package with some features that the other manufactures lack.

Removable magazine
Integrated rings
Free floating barrel
A doubled braced bedding stock

If I could get one in .25-06. I would sell my XL-7, and buy one. Heck! I might just get one in .270, and sell the .25-06 anyway.

 

[Abel]

Integrated rings

What integrated rings?

 

[Eb1]

Oh. They are not integrated.
It comes with rings that mount to the receiver. Or am I reading that wrong?

 

[R.W.Dale]

It comes with a set of Weaver bases according to gunblast

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[Eb1]

I see. Two piece Weaver rings.

Looking at the "features" it looks like integrated rings.

 

[tikka-guy]

If I could get one in .25-06. I would sell my XL-7, and buy one.

None of the calibers there jump out at me as something I'd want to buy (already have .270 and .308). But... think there's any chance they offer this in 6.5 Creedmoor? I wouldn't mind experimenting with that caliber a bit Hmmm.

 

[Eb1]

Being a big fan of the .25-06, I would like to own another. Possibly one that was built with a detachable magazine.
The XL-7 I have shoots really well, and is a good hunting rifle for the distances I shoot at which are not over 300 yards.

A 6.5 Creedmore would be a nice choice. We may see more calibers coming out. I wouldn't mind having a .308 if I were to buy a new rifle. Just because I have a lot of medium burning powder here for .223 and 30-30, and that could be used for .308 as well.