Child molester moving into our neighborhood.

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Here, Read this!

This was just this summer. I didn't follow the case too much since I don't really live near there, but townfolk in the city of Issaqah east of Seattle has had some good fortune with the courts.

http://isspress.1upsoftware.com/main.asp?SectionID=8&SubSectionID=182&ArticleID=2788

I had a level II dipstick living next to us for a bit. We didn't know it for about a year. But he lied on his rental app so the landlord evicted him as soon as we told him. Still, he's in the area. We live rural, so it's pretty easy to notice strangers. But one can never let their guard down.

Start with your local city or county government! Pack all the kids in a house with some good armed baby sitters. And get the rest of the neighborhood voting adults to go to a council meeting and raise a stink. Also check with your local agencies, the laws in most states allow you a list of "ALL" sex offenders in town. Many even list most of the address for the b@st@rds.


-Steve
 
I had little trouble in making sure a cho-mo vacated my neighborhood. I alerted his neighbors in his apt. complex, I put up posters copied from the Idaho State Police website on power/telephone poles in the immediate vicinity and let his landlord know that any new renters would be informed of his presence ASAP. I also made direct eye contact with him at every opportunity and let him know that I was responsible for his troubles. His kind is uncomfortable around those who can fight back. Turn on the lights and the cockroaches will run.
He moved...
Biker
 
The good news is....

These guys are usually on a very short leash with the authorities. They have a lot of checking in and counseling to attend and one little slip up puts them back in custody. Most of them don't make it, they miss a meeting sooner or later.

The neighborhood watch can do just that, watch him. Keep an eye on his moves so he doesn't roam the neighborhood without someone knowing what he is up to. You can't harass him, but you can watch him.
 
I agree with Issac.
I do not have kids but have nephews and nices.
Parents- I know that it is tough but due to the society these days your children need to have adult supervision that you can trust all of the time.
Our society is so preverted that it cares more for child rapers than children.
Big dog(s) raised with kid, constant supervision, responsible firearm available at all times (electronic safes), mace, pocket air horn, etc.
Any time you should see the pervert, you always have a very assertive posture and do not iniciate talking to him but let him know by your attitude that he is not welcome any where near you and yours.
If you have to talk to him let him know that will protect your child with all means available to you and say it with attitude (say nothing more).
Do not go onto his property or confront him unless he come up to you or enters your property.
I keep NRA stickers on my cars and doors of my home (I know that some people thinks this invites thieves) but I have found it to be a deterent probably especially so in this situation.
I also have six very nice but very large and protective dogs as well a number of attack cats.
Eternal vigalence.
 
Proofing

Just as we must gun proof our children so they will know what to do if they come across a gun, they should be adult proofed or inappropriate touching proofed, what ever the term is.
 
Try and get your city council to pass a law that restricts where they can live. Iowa has a law where a convicted child molester can no live with 2000' of a school or licensed day care. In Des Moines, Iowa which is over 300,000 in the metro are there are very few places in the area convicted sex offenders can live and there is a hub bub in the city councils of the towns that make up the area to have laws that include 2000' of parks, swimming pools and libraries, this would virtually illiminate any where in the area they can live. The sheriff's office in Polk county is telling the sex offenders that they have to move very soon or they will be forced, this is a very new law in the state of Iowa.

One town in Iowa called Ely which is between to larger towns, Cedar Rapids and Iowa City, didn't have any schools or daycares so they passed a local law to include parks, swimming pools and libraries. The citizens were concerned that town would become a haven for sex offenders who were forced to move out the areas.

Remember don't harass the pedofile but get politically active and get laws made. I can't see any political party standing up for rights of child molesters except the extreme wackos.

my 2 cents

Charby
 
I am moving this to legal and political. We seem to be concentrating on passing laws, not how to proof our children against this.

Jeff
 
We did not seem to be concentrating on any such thing as far as I could see...... I saw a few answers mention political means to address this situation as well as a few others that talked about how to prepare children to deter peodophiles, as well as a fe others with posts on other means to address the situation including the psychological aspects of it.I thought it was pretty varied myself.
 
They had one up Albuquerque way last year, they just picketed him.
He hooked up his trailer and moved and they followed him everywhere he went.
Someone put some coal oil down the chimney :D and he left the state.

Sam
 
As you plainly stated, a convicted (and probably therefore already punished)child molseter has to live somewhere.

I know the perfect place, people are just dying to get in. :evil:

If he is a child molester, not just screwed by ex-wife or something, find every possible legal way of harassing the hell out of this guy. You can officially consider any time spent making a child molesters life an insurable hell a good dead for the day.
 
Just thought I'd add that I don't think this guy's much of a threat. Molesting a step daughter is a good distance from abducting a neighbor's child. The number of guys who will cop a feel at their daughters is far greater than most people realize or be comfortable with (well I guess most people wouldn't be comfortable with a single one).
 
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but in child molestation cases, more then 80% of the men that did it knew the child. People get freaked out and on alert when a known sex offender moves into the area (as you should be), but don't keep your guard down for everyone but the guy that is going to move in. When it comes to your children, its your job to keep them safe, which could mean from everyone...
 
It is my understanding that most molesters pick children that they know and have some type of relationship with. In my practice, this is was definately true, as I never treated anyone that was molested by a stranger. All of them were molested by a relative or "family friend." My advice is to get to know all of the adults that your child interacts with on a regular basis. This includes parents of their friends, teachers, scout masters, etc.
Good advice, worth repeating.

pax
 
Just thought I'd add that I don't think this guy's much of a threat. Molesting a step daughter is a good distance from abducting a neighbor's child. The number of guys who will cop a feel at their daughters is far greater than most people realize or be comfortable with (well I guess most people wouldn't be comfortable with a single one).

Not as far removed as you might believe, my friend.

Also, heed what Jeff has been saying. You must not do anything illegal--or even close to it--to protest this person coming into your area.

Stay alert, and stay vigilant. Until my children were older, the unbreakable rule was that all of their activity occurred in our line of sight. When they visited friends, we took them over, dropped them off and picked them up. They were always in our line of sight when we were out.

Stay alert, be alert, be careful.
 
Yesterday in Des Moines, Iowa

http://www.dmregister.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051005/NEWS01/510050342/1001

Offender caught with 20-month-old girl in library restroom
The man has a prior conviction in Texas for assaulting a woman
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By TOM ALEX
REGISTER STAFF WRITER

October 5, 2005

Police said a registered sex offender who lived at a Des Moines homeless shelter kidnapped a toddler Tuesday at the downtown library and sexually assaulted her in a locked men's room while employees worked to open the door.

James Carson Effler Jr., 32, grabbed the 20-month-old girl about 11 a.m. as she played on the floor near her baby sitter, who was using a library computer, investigators said.

Library employees helped the baby sitter search for the girl before they heard a child's cry. Employees then called police and removed the handle on the restroom's door to gain access and reach the girl; they held Effler until officers got there, Capt. Kelly Willis said.

"Most of the police work was done by the library staff before we even arrived," Willis said.

No one else was hurt. The child was taken to a hospital for evaluation, and her parents were contacted. The extent of her injuries was not made public.

The incident illustrates the difficulty lawmakers face in trying to attack child molestation by such measures as requiring offenders to register with the state or limiting where they may live.

Effler was convicted in Texas in 2003 for sexually assaulting a 31-year-old woman.

Javier Sambrano, public information officer for the El Paso, Texas, police department, said the conviction against Effler stemmed from a May 2002 incident in which he knocked on the door at the home of a 31-year-old woman and asked to use the telephone. Once Effler gained entry, he sexually assaulted the woman.

"They did not know each other, he was not someone she knew, but in the area where the victim lived, many of the neighbors often would ask to use the phone," Sambrano said.

He was sentenced to three years in prison and later paroled. Officials have not determined how long he has lived in Iowa.

Effler is listed on the Iowa Sex Offender Registry, but because the conviction involved an adult victim, he was not covered by a new state law that bans child molesters from living within 2,000 feet of a school or child care center.

Effler, who police say lives at Churches United Shelter, 205 15th St., reported his address to registry officials as 201 1/2 Fifth St. in West Des Moines.

He is charged with first-degree kidnapping, second-degree sexual assault and failure to comply with rules of the registry, because he was not living at the address listed. The kidnapping charge is the most serious of the three; it carries a life prison term.

The baby sitter noticed the child missing about 11 a.m., police said. She told officers the girl had been playing at her feet while she surfed the Internet at a table not far from the men's restroom on the main level of the library, 100 Locust St.

The baby sitter and library employees immediately began a search for the child, and then someone heard a child scream in the restroom and saw an adult's shadow on the other side of the frosted glass.

Library workers tried to force their way into the restroom, then called for a maintenance worker with a screwdriver.

Willis said that employees William Stokes and Pam Deitrick removed the handle and opened the door, and that they then pulled the child out of the restroom and shut Effler inside.

"They are heroes," Willis said. "They grabbed the baby and shut the door on him."

Library Director Kay Runge referred all questions about the investigation to the police.

Police have been called to the main library 51 times this year for a host of minor problems.

Tuesday's incident "was an awful thing, horrendous," Acting City Manager Rick Clark said. "We are really thankful the library staff was there and attentive and took the initiative to do something about this."

Effler was jailed in May for public urination and arrested less than a month later for drunken driving. He spent 30 days in jail, according to court records.

Records also show Effler was charged with shoplifting in Windsor Heights on Aug. 29. He was ordered to pay a $50 fine.

Doug Epperson, a psychology professor at Iowa State University who helped Minnesota officials develop guidelines to evaluate sex offenders before they are released from prison, said child abductions by strangers are rare.

"Typically, with a victim that young, it's a related perpetrator or a perpetrator who is connected in some way with the parents, or it could be a friend of the family," he said. "Normally a stranger would not have access to a victim that young."

The March abduction and murder of 10-year-old Jetseta Gage of Cedar Rapids — the man accused in her death, Roger Paul Bentley, 38, was a friend of the family — sparked Iowa lawmakers to pass a handful of laws to crack down on sex criminals.

Police Sgt. Barry Arnold said 20 to 30 of the Churches United shelter's 125 or so residents have been warned that they must move under the residency restriction law. Effler was not one of them.

Register staff writer Abby Simons contributed to this article.
 
Well, it seems that the only solution is to protest to your legislators. Get them to pass a law that child molesters automatically get life sentences without parole or the death penalty.

This is exactly the kind of situation that shows why prison doesn't work. If these felons have paid their debt to society, then they should be free to live where they choose without harassment. If they still pose a threat to society, then they should never have been let out and clearly prison did not "rehabilitate" them. Since the law is on his side, you can protest all you want; it won't make any difference if he is determined to stay and has a good lawyer. He could sue anyone who harasses him just as easily as you can.

I feel for you, but this guy is no different than if a convicted rapist, arsonist, or murderer moved into your neighborhood; you'd just have no warning that they were there. As another poster said, your children are always at risk. You can only prepare them to protect themselves wherever they are (of course schools won't let them carry anything useful)
 
Thought

on dealign with these guys, as some of the replies make me shudder a little.

pouring coal oil down his chimney?

GOOD, let's commit as many crimes as possible, do as many dishonest, evil things as possible to show how wrong he is. ARGH.

result?? guy keeps moving till he finds a place no one knows him. everyone hated him, he's already judged guilty for life, so what does he do?
MOLESTS again.

why NOT- act normal, EDucate the heck out of aLL kids in the area, make sure EVERYONE knows what guy "Is" and keep an eye on him.

i think any kid with a tiny bit of sense can avoid being molested, ESpecially if they know who to watch out for specifically, and everyone is safer in the long run.

the kicker will be when one of these days a group chases out a known molestrer and an unknown, trickier one moves in his place.
 
In most states the sex offender can't be within 1000 feet of a school. If he's just been released, he's certainly on parole and his parole officer is going to have to approve where he lives. I bet they have already checked to make sure the proposed residence is in compliance with the conditions of his release.

START AN OFFICALLY CHARTERED PRIVATE SCHOOL IN YOUR LIVING ROOM!!! I AM NOT KIDDING, IT WILL WORK IF HE IS WITHIN THE DISTANCE EXCLUSION.
 
If he is on parole and I'm sure he is. Keep an eye on him as I'm sure you all will. Call the police for anything illeagal he might do. If you see him drinking in his yard watch to see if he drives anywhere and keep his licence plate number written down. Call the police for loud music ect. If you get lucky maybe one of these things will be a parole violation. By calling the police that will remove you and the rest of the people in the neighborhood of possible harassment.
 
Aren't there laws about how close a registered sex offender can live to schools?
Yes, there are. You can speak with your District Attorney and find out whether or not the dude is in violation. I'd talk to the DA and voice your very real concern, especially since he's a verifiable convict. Other'n that, do you have an alert dog? Always a good idea, regardles...
Sorry to pop in and out like this so quickly, I may have more cogent thought/advice later.
 
There was a molester in one of the neighborhoods I grew up in.

Everyone knew his name, face, and what he had done, and he was basically shunned.

Every so often, Mom & Dad would remind me not to go near X, and if X ever tried to speak to me, to run away and tell them.

And that's all there was to it, we otherwise carried on with the happy childhood thing as normal.

That is the KEY: to take the whole thing in matter-of-fact stride. Staying away from X was treated as an everyday thing, just like looking both ways before crossing the street. As a result, I did indeed have a happy childhood, without any undue stress concerning X. In fact, I forgot all about him until I saw this thread.

The advantage we have today is that pictures can be obtained for reference and reinforcement. Back then, mom or dad had to surrepticiously point X out when driving by, so I'd know what he looked like.
 
Thorn, I'll tell you why we have to take extremes against the animals and, at times, take it to the point that the true defenders of the innocent will break the law.
1) The people that molest kids are animals. They're not right. And when you're broken in the brain and that level, you don't "get better".
2) The legal system isn't protecting these little ones from these vermin. It's obvious by the recent reports of kids being murdered by molesters that had already been caught previously.

The people that will stand and heriocally break the law to protect the helpless are in the same league as those who hid the Jews from the Nazis or the folks pulling slaves out with the underground railroad.

I'm not so warm and fuzzy that I'm willing to let the government protect my kids and trying to "educate" these vile predators--and all the while the situation continues and little ones lives are destroyed because "oh, it would be the wrong thing to be mean to these poor molesters."

Sometimes you HAVE to break to law to do what is RIGHT. There is no more sacred duty we have beyond protecting our little ones. I absolutely would want these people to repent and get forgiveness, but if it was up to me, they'd better do it quick (if you catch my meaning.)
 
They disappear in my town....................

Seems a few known molesters have vanished over the years. I didn't say move....................I said VANISH :rolleyes:
Left behind belongings, cars, furniture, etc...............no forwarding address.

Lots of woods around here too..............................hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm :evil:
 
Effler was jailed in May for public urination
I guess that's why peeing in public gets you on the list, it's a gateway sex offense :rolleyes:

(I know I shouldn't be making light of that gruesome story but I couldn't resist :p )
 
There are probaly more in your area than you know about.

I did a search a while back on the Nat. alert registy, and there were SEVENTEEN in my small town.
 
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