China needs more gun control!

[Michael Zeleny]

Chinese children hurt in shooting

A man armed with homemade guns has shot and wounded 16 children at a primary school in the eastern Chinese province of Anhui, according to state media.

Seven of the children were in a serious condition in hospital, Xinhua said.

Police are hunting for the man responsible, who escaped after the shooting at the Niutoushan Primary School in Guangde County, Anhui.

China's government has tightened security at schools after a number of such attacks in recent years.

STRING OF ATTACKS

• November 04 - man knifes to death eight children in high school in Ruzhou
• September 04 - man knifes 28 children in day care centre in Suzhou
• September 04 - man knifes 24 children at school in Shandong
• August 04 - 15 children and 3 teachers knifed in Beijing kindergarten, by man with history of mental illness. One child died

The latest attack happened at 0815 local time (0015 GMT) at the Niutoushan Primary School in Liudong Town as the schoolchildren were doing their morning exercises, Xinhua reported.

It said a cable television company employee who was working nearby, Chen Yongfeng, ran to the school after hearing the shots and tried to pick up the man's guns, but the assailant hit Mr Chen on the head with one of the weapons and escaped.

According to the local Xinan Evening News, doctors removed six bullets from one student and two from another.

It is the latest in a series of attacks on schools in China in the last few years. They include the knifing to death of eight children in a high school in Henan province last year, and two separate attacks on kindergartens in Beijing which left two children and a teacher dead.

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/4337056.stm

Published: 2005/10/13 06:18:27 GMT

 

[Henry Bowman]

Looks like they need knife control -- or else that the knife control laws are now working.

 

[cuchulainn]

I'm shocked. Shocked, I tells ya.

 

[rick_reno]

Global warming, it's making people crazy.

 

[Beetle Bailey]

I voted for "No. Arm everyone. . . "

If you disarm the government, I guess there would be parity between the government and the people, but obviously the criminals would still have guns.

MSG in my dimsum? No thanks. HK MSG-90 with my chow mein? Yes, thanks !

 

[beerslurpy]

He made a homemade gun that shot 16 bullets? Holy crap, it's Chinese Macguyver.

I vote that we arm all chinese people everywhere and tell them there is only enough rice to feed half of them lol messy.

By the way, why is there Metal Gear Solid in my dim sum?

 

[KriegHund]

By the way, why is there Metal Gear Solid in my dim sum?

im a little confused on that too....

Anywho, arm the teachers, says i.

 

[Beetle Bailey]

I vote that we arm all chinese people everywhere and tell them there is only enough rice to feed half of them lol messy.

In that case, you can send all your guns to my FFL. I will take care of distributing them to the local Chinese American population. You can lie about the rice, but just be aware: we eat noodles, too!

 

[silverlance]

not only is he a chinky mcgyver

he's also a bona fide chemist.. sixteen bullets... considering that cartridges have also always been banned, how the heck did he manage to get sixteen rounds downrange?

and if that was a blackpowder gun, damn, he must be davy crockett as well.

if the crime wasnt so horrendous, i'd be proud of also being chinky.

 

[gunsmith]

Bush Knew!

If Bush hadn't stolen the election then there wouldn't be a crisis in NOLA!

oh wait... wrong forum!

 

[Soap]

They need less gun control, but I didn't vote to arm them...let them arm themselves as they so choose. So I didn't vote.

 

[El Tejon]

If only China had a seven day waiting period before one could pick up his homemade firearm, this would not have happened. At least that's what the Brady Bunch told me.

 

[boofus]

The homemade firearm was obviously sprayed from the hip and indiscriminately injured school children. Homes should be banned so no firearms can be homemade.

 

[meef]

He made a homemade gun that shot 16 bullets? Holy crap, it's Chinese Macguyver.

No no no no no....... !!

That dude would never touch a firearm! He was much too demonstrably, pointedly anti-gun on that program (and in real life) to ever stoop to such a repulsive thing.

 

[elric]

No no no no no....... !!

That dude would never touch a firearm! He was much too demonstrably, pointedly anti-gun on that program (and in real life) to ever stoop to such a repulsive thing.

But then why did he go do Stargate SG1, where he uses MP5s and P90s to solve his alien problems in every other episode?

 

[odysseus]

only is he a chinky mcgyver

Nice Silverlance...

Maybe you have been in a cave for a while, but the word "chink" is a term used by racists against Chinese and Asian Americans. Being one who has ancestory from China, I find your use of it offensive; and not High Road.

 

[gunsmith]

odysseus

As some one who's ancestors hail from Ireland and Norway I find that term
offensive as well.

moderators???

 

[Declaration Day]

By the way, why is there Metal Gear Solid in my dim sum?

I figured it out. If you look at the poll, MSG is mistakenly spelled "MGS", which is a commonly used acronym for Metal Gear Solid.

 

[Oleg Volk]

As racial terms go...many people seem to use them self-referencially. Should I forbid these people to offend themselves, especially since they think the terms are more humorous than offensive?

 

[odysseus]

Oleg,

I do not know what racial background a poster is or is not, nor do I think a lot of people here who may read this do either. So when a post is placed using a term like that; I think it is safe to say it could offend someone - it certainly did me. I assume innocence here, and that's fine - but I certainly am going to say something about it; not just be silent.

Let's move the tables around there and say the post was about Africa and someone said "N----r Mcyver". Say it was about Israel instead, would "K--e Mcygver" be a good thing to write?" Would that be tolerated here? Is that HighRoad even if they were African American or of a Jewish heritage? Doesn't really nullify the reaction one exposes themselves to when they write it. I am not a PC kind of guy, but I do have certain lines I draw - and certain items I think in a public forum setting that I should respond to.

 

[Michael Zeleny]

As racial terms go...many people seem to use them self-referencially. Should I forbid these people to offend themselves, especially since they think the terms are more humorous than offensive?

Can I make it kosher by identifying myself as a rootless cosmopolitan, potato-chugging, vodka-pissing, chinky-chasing yid?

 

[Michael Zeleny]

I do not know what racial background a poster is or is not, nor do I think a lot of people here who may read this do either. So when a post is placed using a term like that; I think it is safe to say it could offend someone - it certainly did me. I assume innocence here, and that's fine - but I certainly am going to say something about it; not just be silent.

The poster in question clearly stated:

if the crime wasnt so horrendous, i'd be proud of also being chinky.

What exactly is your problem with a man making light of his own ethnicity?

Let's move the tables around there and say the post was about Africa and someone said "N----r Mcyver". Say it was about Israel instead, would "K--e Mcygver" be a good thing to write?" Would that be tolerated here? Is that HighRoad even if they were African American or of a Jewish heritage? Doesn't really nullify the reaction one exposes themselves to when they write it. I am not a PC kind of guy, but I do have certain lines I draw - and certain items I think in a public forum setting that I should respond to.

Back in the old country, I was eager to bust my knuckles at the sound of Russian counterparts to "******" (чёрножопый) and "kike" (жид). Now I just shrug it off. Which response do you take to be more conducive to tolerance?

 

[odysseus]

Back in the old country, I was eager to bust my knuckles at the sound of Russian counterparts to "******" (чёрножопый) and "kike" (жид). Now I just shrug it off. Which response do you take to be more conducive to tolerance?

I don't understand your point. Was my response to him a busting of knuckles so you seem to speak? No. Somehow you think silence=tolerance? I disagree. Must be my Socratic education. Nor do I normally operate on either of those extremes. I am not freaking out here, I was making a stern response to the use of this word. Russian or not, it doesn't make a difference.

I don't have a problem if HE wants to make fun of his own ethnicity. I have a problem with the derogatory word he used, and in a stern but clear message let him know. Simple. Get it? So what's your problem with that?

 

[Michael Zeleny]

I don't understand your point. Was my response to him a busting of knuckles so you seem to speak? No. Somehow you think silence=tolerance? I disagree. Must be my Socratic education. Nor do I normally operate on either of those extremes. I am not freaking out here, I was making a stern response to the use of this word. Russian or not, it doesn't make a difference.

I don't have a problem if HE wants to make fun of his own ethnicity. I have a problem with the derogatory word he used, and in a stern but clear message let him know. Simple. Get it? So what's your problem with that?

I have much more respect for censorship roughly delivered within an arm's reach, than sternly dispensed through the digital constabulary detail of your choosing, all the more so when the latter is accompanied by disingenuous disclaimers of being "a PC kind of guy". As for your "Socratic education", I suggest dispatching a search party on a quest for eironeia.

 

[odysseus]

have much more respect for censorship roughly delivered within an arm's reach, than sternly dispensed through the digital constabulary detail of your choosing

Hey - did you know this is an Internet forum? Just making sure you were aware of this. We are all typing on keyboards here.

all the more so when the latter is accompanied by disingenuous disclaimers of being "a PC kind of guy". As for your "Socratic education", I suggest dispatching a search party on a quest for eironeia.

So using "chink" to describe Chinese is alright in your book, and I am being disingenuous. Oh no - according to you, you can't have an opinion on that and you should just be silent. There's your "eironeia" right back to you. Sheez...

Who's censoring anything wiseguy?

ohh.. OK... You win big guy.