Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by On An Island, Sep 17, 2013.
As I've used the the 22-250 in the past and currently have a precision 223, I think I'd ask for the 204, a caliber I've yet to shoot
I like my .22-250 but I'm sure that the .223 will be cheaper. I think most shooters using the .22-250 reload their own. Take that into account.
I like having a variety of calibers and I load my own ammo.
This. The 22-250 is the most versatile .22 cal centerfire made. It can be loaded everywhere from mild .22mag levels with cast lead, up to barn burner 4000fps loads. It can be easily down loaded to .223 levels or full charged to exceed the .223 by nearly 1,000fps.
That said, the .223 is available everywhere, whereas even some well stocked gun shops wont have 22-250 on hand. Bottom line: Reload? 22-250. Dont reload? .223.
And, with proper loads and careful shooting, it will work on deer, although I'd say "smaller deer" than something like the large Maine Whitetails.
FWIW, in a month I'm going on a prairie dog hunt in Montana, and probably won't even take the 22-250. Too loud, and it will do little the others won't do. The .204 is a dream to shoot and groups .4's. The AR shoots dime size groups at 200+ yards.
I hand load everything.
My .22-250 Rem, loaded with 35 grain projectiles had a muzzle velocity of 4,400+ FPS. Even loaded with 55 grain projectiles, 3,800 FPS is quite easy to achieve. If you intend have to download in order to be able to use a .22-250 Rem on steel, you might as well go with a .223 Rem and load at standard velocities. For what it's worth, even 40 grain HPs in a .223 Rem will damage steel at 100 to 200 yards.
Good to read others' experiences with all choices.
I would try the .204. I don't own a .204 and I do have sort of 3-22-250s and 6- .223s so I am not defending something I bought. However here is something interesting I found when I looked at the caliber before. The 22-250 will shoot flatter than the .223 in any fair comparison so the question becomes, "What advantage would a .204 Ruger have over a 22-250 in performance?" Berger (and maybe others as well?) makes a 55 grain .20 caliber bullet that has a BC around .381. With a 100 yard zero, shoot a 22-250 with a 55 grain bullet (approx 3800 FPS) vs a 204 with a 55 (around 3300 FPS) and @ 500 yards the 22-250 is down 43" vs the 204 down 40". Well, no fair you say as the profiles are different....OK....switch the 22-250 to a 70 grain VLD. The 22-250 velocity with the 70 grainer would mirror the 204 with a 55 grainer AND the BC is about the same for both so you would have the same long range potential (bullet drop) with both. Now you can argue that the 70 grainer would have more energy but if that is the major factor for selecting the rifle you use, you would probably be shooting a bigger round than any of the three. YMMV
The 22-250 will toast your barrel in 1,000 to maybe 1,500 rounds +/- depending on your load and shooting habits. That means a dozen trips to the range if you shoot a hundred rounds each time.
So yeah, the 250 will whack varmints better. But it won't kill paper any deader. And it costs more to shoot. And it ruins the barrel 5x faster. And it's louder.
If I were gonna just go out and shoot ground hogs, it would be the 250 hands down. That's not what you asked.
IMHO the. 204 may be a little light for coyote size varmints.
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