Christmas with my anti-gun family

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Wait till you have to tell relatives to quit admiring ones 1911 and pass the potatos

If only. I wish I HAD a 1911 to be admired. :( Really, in my family, the topic of guns hasn't really come up, so I don't know where they stand. However, my extended family is kinda rural, so I assume they're generally pro-gun, but you never know.
 
OH MY LORD

The wife now wants me to go have Christmas dinner with her sister and family! This is an epidemic! These two have never forgiven me for busting their balloon years ago when we had dinner. You see they are upper crust yuppies that live in a large city in condo land. They wanted to know how much it would cost to hire armed guards for the condon building they lived in. I told them there wasn't enough money in the world to pay people to go toe to toe over the junk in your house if you are not willing to do it yourself. Thats probably not right because I know guys who would do it for free if they got to go toe to toe with bad guys but......... well it was an insight into how they think. They would not soil a paw with a filthy firearm but have no problems hiring out and having the help take care of these things. Like cleaning the toilet, washing the car etc. I guess they just don't see it as really concerning them so why would the little people have to?
Anyway it was another one of those moments when I knew I just wasn't on the same planet as they were.
 
It sounds like they are victims of the "Rosie Syndrome". It's wrong to have a gun, but it's OK to hire someone to carry one for you.

You might want to point out the inequity in their thinking. :D
 
Well Christmas Eve is over and I know we still got Christmas Day ahead of us but i'm kind of curious how it all went? Did he say anything? Was it ever brought up? What did you end up doing with the magazines and such?
 
I think all of you people's family problems have less to do with your relatives' liberal tendencies than with them being *******s. It seems like people these days have forgotten how to have a rational discourse that doesn't get bogged down into emotional sentiments. My political views differ from much of my family yet it never turns into yelling matches because frankly, we all like and respect each other.
 
Christmas went ok, no issues!

Christmas weekend actually turned out ok!:D We had a nice cordial family visit, did the gifts and all the hoopla, it stayed civilized.:D I was pretty gratified about this, I think we may have reached a truce between myself and my brother, I think he knows how adamant I am in my position, he know's I'm not going to waver from it. I have the facts on my side.:D Guns actually came up on a topic about crime being on the rise in Colorado Springs, he's a probation officer, so he deals with all sorts of cases from day to day. However, my brother did not make any negative comments regarding gun ownership and did not make it an issue, I was pleasantly surprised. No reaction when he saw my reloading bench either, I'll give him credit for that. All in all, the weekend went well and I am gratified about that.:D
 
I love my anti-gun family more than I love my guns. Therefore, when visiting them, or them visiting me, i'll let them live in the illusion that their son doesn't need guns.

In taking such a view, they are missing out on a big part of their son's life, as well as a big part of who he is, but that's their problem; not mine.
 
40cal Red one

My rangerbuddy, Doc, married a commie chick. She hated all things American, especially men and manly things. Damn, If I could figgure out what was the appeal of this woman.

FFW'D 15 years. Last week, I spoke with her. She was describing how she and their son play "hunting", and she helps stalk 'game' with the little guy. They use the closet for a 'blind'. :D

The commie in-laws bought Doc a pair of rattle-snake skin covered grips for his Kimber for Christmas.

All is not lost, time changes everyone.
 
glad you had a peaceful xmas.

btw, i tolerate none of this nonsense from any of my siblings.

if they are over, and they have a beef with the way i am leading my life, they can STF up, or get the F out with a boot in the a$$. if they want to come back, they'll get a stern lecture from me about the pernicious pu$$ification of America.

they are entitled to their views, but i am entitled to them keeping their views to themselves (basic courtesy). especially under my roof.

Dale Carnegie Rule #1: "Don't Criticize, Condemn, or Complain..." ESPECIALLY if it is unsolicited.
 
Relatives are welcome to visit in my home, as long as they respect common courtesy and the rules of the house. I've had those who could do neither and the welcome mat is no longer out for them. Problem solved.

A disagreement of opinion, if held in the context of civilized discussion, is fine. But there is a vast difference between that and an argument or an insult.

Parents especially can be a problem, if they don't realize when the torch has been passed and they are the "guest" and not an authority figure when visiting in their adult children's home. This has happened to me, and I won't be made a puppet in my own home - certain personages are no longer welcome here due to that fact.

Glad all worked out for you, Redneck w/40
 
RWA 40,

It's great to hear all went went so well. :) Even nicer to hear that it happened without you having to "disguise" who you are for the day. ;)
 
I love my anti-gun family more than I love my guns. Therefore, when visiting them, or them visiting me, i'll let them live in the illusion that their son doesn't need guns.

In taking such a view, they are missing out on a big part of their son's life, as well as a big part of who he is, but that's their problem; not mine.
You're gonna have to 'come out' to them sooner or later. You can't go on living your live with all your guns in the closet. :)
 
Life isn't perfect

Sadly, we can't get along with everyone.

In my 20's and early 30's I did all I could to please everyone. Guess what? I found out that some people, the more you try to make them happy, the more they will pick. Sometimes being true to yourself in a quiet, unassuming way is the best route.
 
The rabidly anti-gun cannot imagine a mindset where a gun is not even considered as something to use in anger. Frequently this is because they know that they themselves would indeed use a gun in anger, so they naturally assume that no one else could possibly be more rational than they are.

So I'd turn the tables on him and ask him "Why should the responsible and rational suffer because of your insecurity and personal flaws?"
 
De-gun mag your home for the sake of familial harmony. Throw a sheet over your reloading equipment

I couldn't disagree more. While I don't advocate the "hogleg" approach from the PP :D You are who you are and guests aren't going to change that...

Here it is in a nutshell: Your house, your rules.

Sounds like your old man did a pretty good job on the 'raising kids' aspect of parenting, so the siblings probably do understand that as a guest, they have a responsibility to behave appropriately while they're guests in someone else's home. That includes not provoking a fight. You guys disagree on thie issue to the point of diametric opposition. That's probably not going to change, but as the host, you have a responsibility to maintain the peace and order in your house for your family first. If he is going to take that first shot by dropping some inane comment, do not allow it to stand unanswered, and get the absolute last word on the issue. If he persists, pull him aside and tell him in no uncertain terms he's unwelcome if he continues and he should rise above his petty problems for the sake of the Holiday spirit. You're the host, your spirit is already on display.

I know my parents taught me that nobody was going to stand up for me.

Glad Christmas visit went well, BTW...
 
Hiprox, you hit the nail on the head! My brother has a very short fuse, a hot temper and he can get confrontational in a hurry, he will get in your face. Considering this aspect of his personality means that gun ownership for him is a BAD IDEA!! He has a hard time grasping the concept that everyone is not like him. I'm a very calm person, shy, quiet, very non-confrontational, rational, and I can control my temper. Therefore, owning and carrying a gun is not a big deal for me.

My brother projects his temper problem onto other people, he thinks we will all just engage in the "wild west shoot-outs".:barf: Nothing could be further from the truth!
 
"Your house, your rules." Good words to live by. My son married an anti. She freaked one day when I stopped by their house and had my Kimber on, although she left it up to my son to tell me. So... I lock the guns in the car when I'm there.
When they come to my place, I unload the all the guns located in various places around the house because of the grandkids (aged 2 months to not-quite-six years) and the fact that they've not had any firearms safety training. That's as far as I go. It's my house after all.
Their house, no guns. My house, guns all over. No problem either way.

Fortunately, the few socialistic relatives I have all understand the basic rule articulated by others and at the top of my reply and we all respect each others views. (Don't agree necessarily, just respect each others' right to have 'em.)
 
Heh, you and the father need to take the kid "Shopping" oh, those "Bags" your loading into the car, just some supplies. Take the kid out shooting. You can still influence him.
 
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