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Chronograph which is accurate for testing rimfire to centerfire

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  1. BigDog1955

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    Looking for a chronograph to see where I'm at when testing .22 LR ammo. Any ideas with out braking the Bank?
     
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    i've used a shooting chrony for twenty-some years now. no problems here.

    luck,

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  3. Legionnaire
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    What's your budget?
    Caldwell Ballistic Chronograph ~ $75 and has a good app for the iphone/ipad
    Magnetospeed Sporter ~ $180
    Magnetospeed V3 ~ $380
    Labradar ~ $550
    Lots of options across a wide range ...

    I used a Shooting Chrony for many years before buying a Magnetospeed. I also have a Caldwell for use with handguns; it's easy to set up and works well enough for the task.
     
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    Like murf, I too have used a Shooting Chrony (F-1) for twenty-some years. My wife bought it for me for Christmas one year. I don't know what she paid, probably well less than a hundred bucks back then, but I've used it for measuring the speed of everything from pellets out of my pellet rifle at 500fps, to bullets out of my 22-250 rifle at 3700fps.
    It kind of depends on your situation though BigDog 1955. I do most of my shooting off our rear deck, or down at the county gravel pit. I can reset my chronograph, or do whatever needs to be done to it by simply walking over to it. But if you're doing most of your shooting at a regular shooting range where walking downrange occasionally is not only forbidden, it could be deadly, you're going to need something with remote controls, and maybe even a remote readout.
    But as far as needing a chronograph that automatically does averages and standard deviations, I can do averages with a notebook, pencil and pocket calculator. And standard deviations can wait until I sit down at this computer and plug the velocities into Excel.
    Whatever you get, be careful. Chronographs don't stand up well to direct hits. I've been lucky - the worst thing I've ever done to mine was forget to turn it off, so the 9V battery was dead when I got down to the county gravel pit. Now I carry a spare taped inside my F-1.:)
     
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    Another satisfied user of Shooting Chrony products.

    I am not aware of any light-triggered chronograph that has a provision for external calibration, so the number displayed will be "close" to the true velocity, but is unlikely to be the true velocity. The readings can also be affected by temperature and the freshness of the battery.

    A chronograph is a useful tool for determining whether your rounds are "in the ballpark" as well as whether their velocities are consistent from round to round, but if you are expecting it to consistently show 1,250 fps each time because that's what's written on the side of the box, you will be disappointed.
     
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    I have a Caldwell. It comes with everything and is as accurate as any. It is even durable, not bullet proof, maybe bullet resistant in the right spot. Mine was once. I hope I don't find out if it's twice resistant...:confused:
     
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    Another vote for Shooting Chrony. Got my basic model in 1997 and after 10 years sent it in for an inexpensive upgrade with an enlarged memory and a control and display unit that can sit at the bench with me. So here it is 2018 and it's still going strong. It's done a lot of 22 rimfire and even pellet guns and I've even tested it against my buddy's Shooting Chrony using the same gun and load to compare results and they were both very close in all categories ( velocity, average velocity, extreme spread, etc.). For the money I'd give them a thumbs up after 20+ years of service with this one.
     
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    Chrony F1. Mine is real finicky after being shot about the 3rd time, but worked great before the 2nd time it got shot!
     
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    Ive got a Prochorny digital, and a Magspeed V3. Ive used them both at the same time and they are very close to the same reading. Ive used them for guns that generate velocity as low as 400fps, and as high as 3400.
    The prochrony is mostly used for tuning my bows now, those shoot in the high 190s to low 300s.
     
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    If you got shot three times, you’d be cranky too
     
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    Anyone use the Magnetospeed -Sporter ? V3 may be out of my price range!! Thinking about the Chrony F1 and it looks like a hassle for me and SD wind, I have a hard time keeping my spoting scope up right on a tripod, also want to use it on my air rifles indoors.?? I haven't thought about the pistol use with the Magnetospeed - Sporter, Guess the auto's are not going to work :( Now I'm back to the F1??

    https://www.amazon.com/Magnetospeed...8-1&keywords=magnetospeed+sporter+chronograph
     
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    I bought a used Magnetospeed V3 for about $175 and like it very much. I would think the Sport model would be fine also; just not as many bells and whistles. As best I know neither will work with an auto pistol and I'm not sure about a revolver. I use mine strictly for rifles.

    The best part is not having to use sky screens and it doesn't care if the day is sunny or overcast. To me that's worth the price of admission.
     
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    If you have the pic rail adapter and your pistol has a lower rail then you can make a mag speed work with it, tho i THINK it has to be the V3. They work fine on revolvers also, used mine on my ruger SBH in .44
     
  17. BigDog1955

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    Loonwulf thanks that's good info.
     
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    i've owned the CED and the f1 shooting chrony, and the magnetospeed v2

    if you're concerned about accuracy, read brian litz' test results

    my experience is that i'd miss a large percentage of shots (20%?) with both CED and chrony, due to light changes or misc stupid stuff.
    for the first few years i had the magnetospeed, i only missed one round, and it was when i blew the endcap off my suppressor. last year i missed a few more due to battery being too low. doh!

    lots of people seem to keep a chrono a long time, even 20 years, if i considered the cost of the rounds i didn't get a reading on, the extra $300 cost of the magnetospeed would actually save me a lot of money, not to mention frustration.
     
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    Taliv, if cost were not a factor, would you switch to a Labradar? I'm happy with my Magnetospeed, but it would be nice to have something that works with both rifles and pistols and that doesn't have to be set up "down range" of the firing position. Just curious ...
     
  20. taliv

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    no. i like being able to shoot lots of different targets at different angles and bearings while chronoing
    i like simple and reliable
    i like small and light weight, easy to keep in range bag
    and i like that the battery lasts years

    the potential POI shift or change to group size from affect on barrel harmonics hasn't been very noticable to me, but i'll concede the point theoretically

    I never chrono pistols
     
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    Thanks. Appreciate the reply.
     
  22. BigDog1955

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    I started some testing, I pulled a snake then shot the 5 10 round groups, then pulled the snake again and went to the next type, still have a few to test. Results so far..


    CZ 452 - 50 yards - 5 -/10 Rounds Adverage

    Group Size- Adv. FPS-Stand Div- Spread-cost ea.
    SK Standard Plus
    .76" -1050 -7.7 -22.5 -.093
    Wolf Match Target
    .72 " -1050 -7.7 -25.5 -.12
    Aguilia Super Extra
    .91" -1088 -18 -48 -.039
    CCI Blazer
    1.47" -1255 -31.85 -107 -.039
    SK Rifle Match
    .78" -1050 -7.5 -24.5 -.15
    SK Pistol Match
    .60" -1057 -8.75 -29 -.15
    Wolf Extra Match
    .68" -1053 -11.5 -39 -.15
    Geco Match
    .70" -1075 -12.4 -39 -.06
    CCI Green Tag
    1.45" -1081 -13.8 -43 -.13
     
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    The next 4 that I will shoot thru the G2 will be Eley Practice @ .0925 / rd, CCI SV @ .0458 / rd, Federal Gold Metal 711B @.0783/rd and Fiocchi LRN40 @.069/rd. These three will be mid range in cost just hope they shoot in the 1050 to 1075 FPS range. I will let u know when I get them tested. Any other types that fall in this 4.5 tp 12 cent per round category let me know? I want to test Norma tac 22 and Rifle, Eley Club couldn't find them today at one site with the above types as well. The Fed gold match hv and lapua center x cost too much per round. :( thanks
     
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    This is the next eight I'm testing,
    Eley Pratice 9.4 per rd
    Federal Target 711B 6.6 per rd
    CCI Std Velocity 4.6 per rd
    Eley Club 12.6 per rd
    Win MP 22 3.1 per rd
    Norma Match 12.2 per rd
    Norma TAC - 22 .12 per rd
    Rem Thunderbolt .4 per rd
    Fiocchi LRN 40 6.4 per rd 5.5 per rd
    Win 36 gr Copper plated HP 4.5 per round
    Targets made and waiting for the wind to die down for 6 hours. I received two shipments today. Still waiting on the Fiocchi. Any others that I should test that are in the 4 to 12 cent range let me know. After this I should find something from the 19 brands that fit my rifle and budget or I'm selling out :)
     
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