Classic has Beretta 1951s now

[Monac]

Classic Firearms, which is the outfit that used to have the Beretta 1951's that started this thread, has some kind of Turkish clone of a Beretta 92 for about $350 (plus shipping, I suppose).

https://www.classicfirearms.com/mke-firearms-390082-regard-adj-sgt18rdtwo-tone/

I've never seen one before.

 

[Old Dog]

Not to derail the thread further (I love the 1951 and would love to add a nice specimen to my Beretta collection), but I examined the Girsan in my LGS recently, and it actually looks very well-made (fit and finish was quite good) with a nice tight slide-to-frame fit, very smooth to rack with an okay trigger.

 

[Havok7416]

Not to derail the thread further (I love the 1951 and would love to add a nice specimen to my Beretta collection), but I examined the Girsan in my LGS recently, and it actually looks very well-made (fit and finish was quite good) with a nice tight slide-to-frame fit, very smooth to rack with an okay trigger.

It looks well-made because it is. Mine has been absolutely flawless. The trigger improves dramatically with a simple D hammer spring swap.

 

[Waveski]

DK Firearms and several other sources have 1951s at $349.
That aside , a 1951 is not a 92 and vice versa. VERY different guns.I have a very nice 92 , and jumped at the chance to obtain its “pappy”.
Cross bolt safety. , single action 1911 style trigger , big old push button mag release- what’s to not like?

Anyone that wants a model 92 should buy a model 92.

 

[NIGHTLORD40K]

Everyone,

The $349.00 price is from a distributor. Has anyone seen a BERETTA 1951 in a gun shop for that price? I know that I have not. I have seen some of the Egyptian clones for as little as $299.00, but that is not a BERETTA made gun.
At a chain, here in central Florida, I can buy a brand new BERETTA 92FS or 92 Compact for $429.00. Even the Compact holds more ammo and has a modern, double action trigger.

How am I going to buy a 1951, at about $400.00 U.S. at the least, when for $29.00 more, I can get a BERETTA 92?
Feel free to disagree, but aside from adding to your BERETTA collection, I just do not see a reason to buy a 1951 at that price. $300.00 out the door, maybe, but not starting at $400.00 or more.

Jim

Aside from chambering and locking mechanism, the 51 and 92 are apples and oranges, IMO, with the 51 being steel framed, single stack, and single action. Despite its weight, the 51 is VERY thin and actually carries quite easily IWB. The two guns have a totally different feel in the hand too.

I was quite impressed with mine, and would still have it if it had not been stolen. If I had an extra $400 at the moment I would have no problem with spending it on another 51.

 

[Monac]

It looks well-made because it is. Mine has been absolutely flawless. The trigger improves dramatically with a simple D hammer swap.

I'm glad the Girsan is a good gun. But could I ask what a D hammer swap is? I don't know anything about modifying Beretta 92s.

 

[Havok7416]

I'm glad the Girsan is a good gun. But could I ask what a D hammer swap is? I don't know anything about modifying Beretta 92s.

That was supposed to say hammer spring. I'll correct it. Basically you can drop (or increase) the trigger pull weight by putting another spring in. My DA pull in that gun was cut about in half and the SA pull also improved by a bit. The spring only cost a few bucks.

(Sorry to everyone for drifting further off topic).

 

[Monac]

That was supposed to say hammer spring. I'll correct it. Basically you can drop (or increase) the trigger pull weight by putting another spring in. My DA pull in that gun was cut about in half and the SA pull also increased by a bit. The spring only cost a few bucks.

(Sorry to everyone for drifting further off topic).

Havok, thanks for your reply, and I understand what you meant to say. But your DA trigger pull dropped and your SA trigger pull increased after the spring swap? Is that how it usually works? And I apologize if I am nitpicking or hounding you.

 

[Havok7416]

Havok, thanks for your reply, and I understand what you meant to say. But your DA trigger pull dropped and your SA trigger pull increased after the spring swap? Is that how it usually works? And I apologize if I am nitpicking or hounding you.

No worries. Apparently my brain isn't fully in gear today.

 

[Waveski]

Oh - I forgot - all steel '51 vs alloy frame 92.
I love a heavy steel 9mm in the hand. Not ideal for carry perhaps , but great for shooting. (Which , after all , is the point...)

 

[golden]

Nightlord and Waveski,

I do not want a single action 9m.m. When I want to shoot a single stack 9m.m. BERETTA, I use my BERETTA Centurion DCM model. This is the double action only BERETTA Compact with an 8 round magazine. It was a police trade in about 11 years ago that I paid $299.00 for. I would buy a new one, if BERETTA ever put them back in production. They were nice to shoot and the shorter grip and barrel/slide made them easier to conceal. I much preferred the smaller grip.
As for a single action, I would rather have a double action only or a double action/single action, skip the steel frame altogether.
My preference.

Jim

 

[Waveski]

The Beretta 1951 is on sale at DK.
At $299 everyone should have one.
Free shipping to boot.