Classic rifles in the field

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marksman13 said:
Does a Ruger No. 1 count as a classic?
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I think the Ruger No.1 is only a slight variation, if at all, from the original "falling block" action which was first patented I think in 1848, on the Sharps rifle. It later transitioned to a metallic breechloader just after the American Civil War, in 1867. I think they started converting them to .50-70 cartridge rifles, as well as making cartridge rifles that year. The Ruger stems from those cartridge rifles from that era. So YEP, it's a classic.

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Not trying to be a Smart a** but at what age does a firearm go from a classic to an antique? I really enjoy hunting with 100+ year old firearms. Love bringing them back to life and getting them back to the game fields doing what they were made for.
 
9x56MS said:
Not trying to be a Smart a** but at what age does a firearm go from a classic to an antique? I really enjoy hunting with 100+ year old firearms. Love bringing them back to life and getting them back to the game fields doing what they were made for.
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My arbitrary interpretation is greater than 100 years old=antique. I identify anything pre-1960 as classic.
 
Random 8 said:
My arbitrary interpretation is greater than 100 years old=antique. I identify anything pre-1960 as classic.
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The actual definition for antique IS 100 years. Classic and vintage both depend on the seller/buyer. Personally, I am insulted when somebody describes something from the 50s or 60s as 'classic'. That makes me a 'classic'. I am not sure I like that, lol.

In my state, current law says you can't register a vehicle as a vintage car unless it is 34 or more years old. That would be 1987 for those math impaired souls.
 
I hear a lot of shooters dump on the pre 24 Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles because they are hard to scope but for my taste that is like putting mag wheels on a model T. I like to shoot them as is or if it is period maybe put a peep or tAng sight on. You really have to hunt your game no snipers need apply.
 
I should hope .22's count. I just picked up a Mossberg .22 rifle, Model 10, that was made around 1932, I'm guessing. It's "pretty old" at least. It's crazy accurate with CCI "Quiet" ammo, and Agulia SSB. Does not eject well with higher pressure loads, but don't matter as her purpose is mostly a grouse gun.

Also have a Marlin "Hawthorn Warrior" that my dad got for us kids to shoot in the 1960's. I like it better than any 1022.
 
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I hear a lot of shooters dump on the pre 24 Mannlicher Schoenauer rifles because they are hard to scope but for my taste that is like putting mag wheels on a model T. I like to shoot them as is or if it is period maybe put a peep or tAng sight on. You really have to hunt your game no snipers need apply.
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I sure hope it discourages anyone from putting a scope on such a rifle.
 
I imagine a 351 is close to .357Mag in power? If so, don't know why it wouldn't do the job. Yes, .35 caliber seems to kill better than it's "paper" ballistics indicate, be it the old lower powered .35's like the .35 Remington or the newer cartridges. Again, don't know where the 351 falls on the power scale.

Or...that could be a posed picture...actually took a .473 Weatherby-Lazoroni-Loudenbooming Super Magnum to bring it down, with a NOSLER PARTICIAN no less...that had THREE particians! And the case had TWO belts.
 
Okay, quick research tells me it out-powers a .357 mag when fired in a rifle, so it is certainly a good deer cartridge. I certainly would not hesitate to take a deer with my '92 in .357.
 
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Can't beat a 35 caliber at short range. The gun scribes will try to tell you the 351 is underpowered and not suitable for deer as you need a new loudenboomin magnum to kill today's armor plated deer.That buck sure looks dead to me. Nice job.
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Yes that experience set me up to be a lifetime 35 caliber fan. Moved on to .35 Rem in a Model 336 for the next few years. I moved out west to NM when in high school. With my big game opportunities expanded, I finally settled on the do it all .35 Whelen. I now live back in my hometown in WI. The Whelen is still great. But I find myself grabbing the 336 when deer season arrives now. Nothing like a short handy lever in a thumper like the .35 Remington for Wisconsin deer hunting.
 
I have a .350 Remington Magnum, which as you know is a .35 Whelen in a different package, or visa-versa. I'm a great fan of both cartridges, or anything .35", but I wish my .350 was in something more classic or antique than the Ruger 77, which is what I have. I would love to have a Marlin in .35 Remington, but as I usually hunt with a flintlock or cap gun, my cartridge hunting rifle buying days are pretty much over. I believe a .357 rifle is not a bad proposition, and often take my Rossi 92 on hiking/exploring/trekking/map-n-compass duties. Again, I would not hesitate to shoot a deer with it if I wanted to or needed to. But of course, a .351 or .35 Remington would be a little "more better".
 
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My wife with kongoni antelope taken on safari in Tanzania with 7X57 built by legendary classic style rifle maker Al Bieson. The 7X57 is one of the all time classic calibers for African hunting. It's the only rifle I've taken on a number of hunts for African plains game. Africa 4.JPG DSC_0284 (2).JPG DSC_0292 (2).JPG
 
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