Close call at walmart!

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You did ok. You were aware of what went on with the guard. You made a decision under pressure- maybe not a perfect one but a decision never the less. You acted on the decision in a confident manner. If you had not flashed a weapon, you may have had to use it, if they came into your space. Apparently you read them right. I would be a bit carefull around town, they may remember you- do not let them get close, next time they may have a plan.
 
While we're telling stories....

When I was 17 I was visiting a friend in San Francisco and we got locked out of his house so we were stuck out front in very low light with our thumbs up our rears. Naturally, a group of about six african amercians boys younger then us mayb 15 or 16, had spotted us and was drawing near. Long story short, they made a half circle around us and my friend took off running twords a lighted shool yard, I stayed behind because it was no use, they were too close. I had a knife but it was in my backback at the time and I had to way of reaching it. I played it cool because I really had nothing on me that was very important, change, cell phone, loose papers. They held my arms while another emptied my pockets. They took off almost right away because they thought they scored big with a few folded up 1's. The smallest one stayed behind and demanded my backpack, he had his hand under his shirt over his abdomen as if resting it on a pistol. I told him it was just clothes and he gave me a mean look then ran off to join his buddies. At that time my friend had started walking back who was followed by an old heavy set african american lady who had seen the whole thing and was furiously trying to catch up to the group of hoodlums as if to teach them a lesson with her walking stick. It's a good laugh for me and my friend now-days but at the time I was angry/scared/sad all of the above. I don't wish I had a CCW at the time because I'd probably be serving six consecutive life sentences right now. I'm just glad the punks didnt have a weapon, fists hurt but those wounds heal.

-Dev
 
I agree that until you NEED to pull the knife you should not. What would the blade have done for you if the guy would have pull a gun or even a knife and said lets dance. Cool calm attitude of don't bother me or I'll have to call the cops is your best way of diffusing the situation. Retreat if it is possible and when pull the knife to use it only.
 
jsalcedo said:
Ok. what would you do to de-escalate the situation?

Myself, CCW, I'd tell them forcefully to leave me alone, have my hand quite poised towards the holster, (and if they get the idea of what that means, good), and back up, eyes on them, towards a safe area, and alert authorities.

If they kept coming towards me, I'd draw, but only then. If one suddenly moved as if for a weapon, draw _and_ fire in self-defense.

That counts as "retreat, but not foolishly", to me? Sound about right?
 
Spec ops Grunt said:
Any links for the basics of knive combat?

A good, well-trained instructor, or enlist. :D

Seriously, pretty much most of what you'll find on the web is utter BS people get from movies, or scam "books" that'll get you killed.

I know I'm not particularly good at it, and I really would rather not have to fight with someone that close. That's what CCW and lots of target practice are for. I'm <- over here, they're -----> over there, and I want to deter them with the sight of the weapon, and if that doesn't work, stop them while they're still at least ---> over there. ;)
 
1) you damn near started something - they were wandering around, and if you'd ignored them, they would have gone away.

2) NEVER show someone a knife until after you've used it.

3) you commited a crime - assault.
 
As far as knife fighting goes, I think the USMC is the only branch that teaches basic techniques at a recruit level...

------get some plastic knives, training types... put red paint on 'em... now stab at each other til exhaustion... each little red swash, irl would be a gushing, painful reminder of your lack of blocking technique... keep doing this til the red lessens and is confined to less serious areas... i.e. forearms...

also train in what to do if your weapon gets taken away from you...
 
bogie said:
1) you damn near started something - they were wandering around, and if you'd ignored them, they would have gone away.

Hahahahaha! Yea right!

Besides that you should read the story again and pay closer attention to details.

He -> ignored them.

-until-

They -> approached him.

They started something.
He finished it.
 
Wrong. He escalated it.

"I'm sorry. I can't help you." Until they do something.

As it was, he coulda been taking a knife to a gunfight... Don't pull stuff out and wave it around.

Plus, once you make the decision to arm yourself, you give up the right to defend your honor at a whim. Some numbnuts walks up, and tells you that you're whatever. Fine. "I'm sorry. I can't help you." Retreat. Deescalate. Get away. Until you can't get away anymore.
 
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