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close range coyotes with 9mm handgun?

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by butcherboy, Aug 5, 2010.

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  1. butcherboy

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    when im in my fields mowing grass i often have coyotes pop out of the tall grass at under 25 yards away. will a hit with a 9mm do anything to a coyote at that range? handgun is a ruger p95 3.5 barrel. thanks
     
  2. bac1023

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    A JHP 9mm should make a mess of a coyote at that range.
     
  3. Rotting

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    Here is a much, much better question: Why the hell would you want to shoot a coyote? Have you or anyone that you know or anyone that THEY know ever been attacked or put into an EVEN POTENTIALLY dangerous situation by a coyote? Do you eat coyote?

    I would give you 100:1 odds that the answer to those questions is "no."
     
  4. groundhog34

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    All coyotes MUST die. They eat: chickens, pet cats and dogs, fawns, calf, etc. There has been a few reports of them attacking humans.
     
  5. 45Fan

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    As a general rule, I dont shoot animals that I wont eat, but the coyote population in my state has exploded in recent years. While I have yet to be attacked by any, I have found deer kills as close as a few hundred feet from my and my fathers house. I would immagine that if they can catch and kill a deer, it wouldnt be difficult for a pack to do a good bit of damage to myself, or another member of my family.
     
  6. Purgatory

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    Yes, a 9mm should dispatch it humanely. As bac1023 stated, Hollow Points would be a good idea, but not entirely necessary.
     
  7. Rotting

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    I'm sure everyone on this message board can come up with ways to rationalize killing a coyote or (insert any number of North American wildlife here) by saying "coyotes might do XYZ, therefore I need to kill them." Justification by offering the most fringe of examples.

    If that's the way you think, and apply that logic to everything else you do in life, you'd never buy milk at a grocery store for fear of a botulism outbreak, never drive a car for fear of a 18-wheeler crossing the highway and colliding with you head-on, or, more to the point - would spend every waking hour hunting down every bobcat, mountain lion, bear, coyote, fox, wolf, etc. within a 25 mile radius of your and every of your family member's houses.

    Just leave the damn thing alone and let it live its life. For crying out loud.
     
  8. TexasPatriot.308

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    maybe this ought to be on "the View" coyotes in front of me die by whatever firearms I got 10 yards, 500 yards, if I got the right gun I use it.
     
  9. oboe

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    But don't send your little toy poochie out for his evening stroll alone - not if you live where my sister lives in AZ. The coyotes do prowl the same neighborhoods regardless of what might be built there now. You usually don't need to shoot 'em. But they can gang up on you, so be prepared. Oh, also, if you live in one of those communities with walls, or if your own property has a wall - these critters can JUMP!

    So, right, just because you see one is no reason to shoot it - but do be prepared if they give you a reason, if you live in one of those places they frequent.
     
  10. TH3180

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    Butcherboy take out one or a hundred for me please.

    9 months ago I was attacked by a coyote in my garage while sitting in a lawn chair reading a book. I live 37 miles from the center of Downtown minneapolis. As far as I'm concerned coyotes are good for nothing animals. So there you have it I know someone that has been attacked. I have the hospital bills to prove it.
     
  11. Gun Geezer

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    Yep, 9mm will do the job at 25 yards and I would think even out to 50 yards. But not much further. I'd be lucky to make the shot myself!

    Yotes ABSOLUTELY take pets from back yards. Have seen it done and then listened while little "fluffy" was snacked on just out past the tree line. I would not hunt them to extinction, but they do compete with me for the deer I PAY to hunt. The competition is darn good at taking fawns and even full grown deer (seen that done also). Yep, I shoot them with a vengence.:)
     
  12. valorius

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    A 9mm JHP will easily kill a Coyote at ranges far beyond 25 yds. Well out beyond 100 with a carbine.

    Coyotes are dangerous animals. An older couple in the US was just killed by a pack of Coyotes within the last few months (a google search should turn up the story). The Governer of Texas just had to shoot one that attacked him and his dog a few months back too. Ruger even introduced a special model of the LCP .380 in commemoration of the incident. He was using an LCP during the attack.

    Link to Coyote commemorative LCP pic: http://c2.api.ning.com/files/37ZJjh...NngCHUGNUL8PU5utPPFlWEQ/rugertruetexan380.jpg

    I guess he was not informed of Rotting's opinion that Coyotes are harmless and should never be shot.
     
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    Wasnt it in Texas that a mayor or govoner shot one with an LCP? I think if a .380 will do the job, a 9 mm will just do it a little better.
     
  14. Rotting

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    The funny thing is that you, apparently, and the guy mentioning "The View" seem to think that *I'M* the pansy--although I'm not scared in the least by these walking dealers of death known as coyotes. I'll tell you what, I've come across dozens and dozens of coyotes in my life and haven't killed a one. It's a miracle that a pansy like me is still alive to talk about it. A MIRACLE!
     
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    I would chase that thing down and end it with my bare hands if it took my dog if I couldn't get it with my gun.

    How were u able to fend it off, TH3180?
     
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    Ruger Coyote special. in .380, gov. good hair Perry shot a coyote witha LCP .380, Ruger made a 1,000 of em, priced around $500, and people are buying them. when not a .380, killed a bunch with a .22 or .22 mag even more with a .17hmr..
     
  17. ILikeLead

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    It sounds to me that Rotting has not had much interaction with the varmints. Around here coyotes tend to run scared and not be "much" trouble. That's only because most everyone I know will shoot any they see on site. Refer to California and the Mountain Lions for what will happen if you don't keep predators scared of humans.
     
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    Butcherboy. How many threads have you opened on this subject? I have found at least 3!
     
  19. Sapper771

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    Rotting,

    I also kill coyotes on sight. They have made a mess of our neighbor's cattle farm. They mingle with the wild dog population that is well known for carrying rabies. The last thing I want to do is have to put one of my animals down because it was bitten by a rabid dog/coyote. The local wildlife management Officer has given us permission to kill them out, regardless of season.


    To the OP, With a good hit, the 9mm should be effective at dropping a coyote. More so with a quality hollow point bullet.
     
  20. TH3180

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    I had no idea it was there until it lunged at me. It got one good bit on my right knee and then I fell backwards in my lawn chair. It got caught up in the legs of my chair long enough for me to scream like a little girl and run into the house. I called 911 and told them what happend. when the first cop got there the coyote was still hanging around my driveway and garage. They killed him on the spot. ( I hope thats ok with Rotting) Within a few hours four pets were found dead in my area. I guess to answer you, I didn't fend him off I got really lucky. Scarey part of the whole thing, 10 minutes before it happend I was pushing my now 15 month old daughter in her stroller up and down the driveway. The DNR told me he probably sat and watch us go up and down the driveway. So to anyone that says they are harmless animals I have to disagree. I could have been killed, worse yet my daughter could have been killed.
     
  21. Purgatory

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    Funny thing is, I'd probably have been just as heroic as you say you were in the instance that it surprised me like that.

    But if I saw one near one of my pack, not to mention a child, things would be a might bit different to say the least.

    Yeah, those are scary stories. I live in a very urban metroplex but we see them occasionally on the fringes and they're more of an attraction than a terror, so far. I'm sure that's bound to change.
     
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    I am getting off topic here, but we have bobcats living in town now. The suckers are spotted occasionally. Beats me where they are holding up during the day, but at night folks keep the pets inside or loose them. Got to be under an empty house of somethhing.
     
  23. inthelineofire

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    Easy for you be the "armchair commando" and tell the OP what to do on his own damned property. For all we know, the OP (or his family or friends) may be farmers and are trying to eliminate the threat to their livelihood. Yes, coyotes will INVADE a farm and BUTCHER all kinds of Livestock. The population here in NJ has grown recently as well, and farmers all around are suffering because of it.

    So, next time something has the potential to effect your income and/or family, just "leave the damn thing alone and let it live it's life."

    Good lord.
     
  24. valorius

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    Coyotes are very dangerous animals. It's really quite simple:

    Plenty of stories of attacks if you're willing to spend about 10 seconds to research the topic:

    http://www.google.com/search?q=coup...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

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    This beautiful 19yo girl is dead now- killed by Coyotes

    Young Musician Killed By Coyotes
    by Peter Jolly
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    19 year old Taylor Josephine Stephanie Luciow, who performed under the name Taylor Mitchell has been tragically killed when a pair of coyotes mauled her on the Skyline Trail in Cape Breton Highlands National Park in Canada.

    The young folk singer was hiking alone on Tuesday when two coyotes attacked her. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police received a 911 call to report that a hiker was being attacked by two coyotes, when they arrived at the scene they found Ms. Mitchell badly injured and shot one of the coyotes at the scene. (I guess the cops didn't hear your opinion about Coyotes being harmless either, eh?)

    Ms. Mitchell was rushed to Sacred Heart Hospital in Cheticamp to treat the bites which covered her body. She was then later airlifted to the Queen Elizabeth II Health Sciences Centre in Halifax but died of her injuries on Wednesday morning.

    Ms. Mitchell was part way through a tour of the East Coast of Canada.

    Park rangers are still hunting for the second coyote which carried out the attack.

    http://www.themorningstarr.co.uk/2009/10/29/young-musician-killed-by-coyotes/

    And this list of attacks on humans, so long it wouldn't even fit on this forum. (27,000 characters long)

    http://varmintal.com/attac.htm

    A random snippet from that link:

    "7/12/01 Vancouver, Canada. Baby's mother recalls coyote attack. The Vancouver mother who saved her 15-month-old daughter from a coyote this week says she wasn't thinking – she just just acted. Dora Chan was gardening in her yard with her baby when the coyote grabbed the little girl by the head on Monday evening. Chan kicked and punched the animal until it let go. The child is now at home again, after being released from hospital. Half her face is stitched up and swollen. ...snip... Story Here."

    Rotting, you are completely wrong. And the evidence proves it.
     
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  25. Nushif

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    I love these caliber questions ...

    "Would a 105 *really* be enough if I hit an enemy jeep with it? I think I'd feel better if I had that 155."

    At a certain point caliber does need to be put into consideration, for sure. But godamn people. It kills people! What do you think it'll do to a Coyote!

    These Myths about the 9mm not scratching stuff need to stop. Let's face it. We shot pretty deadly bullets from our guns.

    /rantoff
     
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