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Closing the Police Loophole. Support list. Refusing LEO sales.

Discussion in 'Activism Discussion and Planning' started by joeschmoe, Feb 22, 2013.

  1. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Participating Member

    Dec 27, 2012
    The goal is to support the companies on the nice list and encourage other companies to join them by email and letter campaign. Not only telling them you want them to join the list, but send them copies of your reciepts for gear you bought off the nice list.

    click the link to see the list.

  2. Texan Scott

    Texan Scott Senior Member

    May 2, 2012
    The Texas Hill Country
    A) This list should be alphabetized, and
    B) Where are Glock and S&W?
  3. beatledog7

    beatledog7 Mentor

    Jun 18, 2011
    Awesome idea! I'd love to see loads of companies in al sorts of industries decline Federal government business until it passes a budget and gets serious about cutting spending. Of course, they all want a piece of that spending, so it'll never happen.
  4. Outlaw Man

    Outlaw Man Participating Member

    Jan 18, 2007
    Cleaning my guns.
    I love the progression of posts on Alex Arms' website (link on that page):

    "Alex Arms is now an Armalite dealer."

    "No exceptions for law enforcement."

    "Armalite has no backbone."
  5. Skylerbone

    Skylerbone Senior Member

    Feb 5, 2010
    Springfield Armory is owned by the Reese family and is not affiliated with ArmaLite, owned by Westrom. They share a hometown.
  6. HOOfan_1

    HOOfan_1 Senior Member

    Aug 11, 2010
    The list can be alphabetized by clicking on the heading that says "company"
  7. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Oct 22, 2007
    Central PA
    We've covered this heavily in other threads. (http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=704248)

    This is a move to encourage gun makers to aid in the cause of their customers, not really to hurt gunmakers. Sometimes, though, the request has to come with a little "spur to prick the sides of their intent" as Shakespeare would have said.

    Let's not sidetrack this thread with another "don't hurt the gunmakers" debate.
  8. Captain33036

    Captain33036 Member

    Sep 20, 2009
    SE FL
    Thank you for posting the list. I now see the companies that I will be doing business with. Glad to see there are a good number. A company that I get many parts and accessories is on the list, I will continue to do business with them. One that I also bought from in the past is not on the list, and so, won't be buying from them for quite a while.

    I see a maker of an AR upper I have been thinking about is on the list. Good. Will stick with them.


  9. SigSour

    SigSour New Member

    Dec 14, 2012
    I hope Daniel Defense gets on that list.

    I like this idea.. it shouldn't be gun owners fighting for 2nd Amendment rights alone. Gun Makers need people to sell to!

    Thanks for the list.
  10. hso

    hso Moderator Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    0 hrs east of TN
  11. Demitrios

    Demitrios Active Member

    Aug 12, 2008
    Northern NJ
    Firearms companies and ammo manufacturers boycott anti-gun states. Please support.

    This was taken directly from the Freedom Outpost website but I have checked other sites to validate this information.


    The list of companies that have decided to stop selling firearms and ammunition to law enforcement agencies, in states that are hostile to the Second Amendment and putting forth gun control legislation, is growing and has grown more than seven times the number that I informed you about one week ago today (2-23-13).

    Previously I listed the following companies:

    Olympic Arms, Inc
    La Rue Tactical
    EFI, LLC – Extreme Firepower
    York Arms
    Templar Custom
    Cheaper Than Dirt
    Barrett Firearms Manufacturing

    Now the list has expanded to include:

    Bullwater Enterprises 2-16-13
    West Fork Armory 2-16-13
    Smith Enterprise 2-17-13
    Alex Arms 2-17-13
    Spike’s Tactical 2-18-13
    Quality Arms Idaho 2-19-13
    Liberty Suppressors 2-19-13
    Doublestar Corp 2-19-13 (Includes J&T Distributing & Ace LTD)
    American Spirit Arms 2-19-13 (complete with a video!)
    Trident Armory 2-17-13 (reported to me 2-20-13)
    Head Down Products 2-20-13
    J&G Sales 2-20-13
    Exile Machine 2-20-13
    Tier One Arms 2-15-13 (reported to me 2-20-13)
    Bravo Company USA 2-20-13
    Primary Weapons Systems 2-21-13 (read my blog post on PWS)
    Crusader Weaponry 2-20-13
    Top Gun Supply 2-21-13
    Kiss Tactical 2-21-13
    Clark Fork Tactical 2-21-13
    OFA Tactical 2-17-13 (reported to me 2-21-13)
    One Source Tactical 2-21-13 (Scroll down to shipping restrictions)
    Templar Tactical Arms 2-12-13 (reported 2-21-13)
    NEMO Arms 2-21-13 (check out their photo!)
    Old Grouch’s Military Surplus 1-15-13 (NOT a typo!)
    Big Horn Armory 2-22-13
    Midway USA 2-22-13
    CMMG Inc 2-22-13
    Rocky Top Tactical 2-22-13
    Badger Peak 2-22-13
    Controlled Chaos Arms 2-22-13
    SRT Arms 2-22-13
    Norton Firearms 2-22-13
    Umlaut Industries 2-22-13
    Predator Intelligence 2-2-13 (Read comments)
    Citizen Arms 2-23-13 (At the bottom of the page)
    Evolution Weaponry 2-17-13
    Chaos Arms 2-23-13
    Warbirds Custom Guns 2-23-13 (Scroll to the bottom)
    JBTAC 2-23-13
    Stoner Arms 2-22-13
    Ammoclip (Date of policy unknown)
    3 Rivers Precision 2-22-13
    2A Firearms 2-22-13
    Lanco Tactical 2-22-13
    Predator Tactical 2-23-13
    Umlaut Industries LLC 2-23-13
    Rhino Arms LLC 2-23-13

    Jeffrey Norton, of Norton Firearms, issued a statement on the company’s website:

    Norton Firearms, Inc. is a strong defender of the US Constitution, not only the 2nd amendment. We believe that a government that restricts it Citizens from executing their Constitutional Rights is no longer a government for the people or by the people. It is our policy not to sell our products or services to any organization that tries to diminish the rights given to us by our US Constitution and our Creator. If you are a government agency with a policy of restricting our Constitutional Rights we ask that you take our tax dollars and spend it somewhere else. I am sure there is some profiteering communist foreign company that will be glad to take our dollars for their gain. We will only sell to law abiding, Citizens and those agencies that truly support and will defend The US Constitution.

    Others, like Kiss Tactical, posted to their Facebook page:

    On Saturday I refused to sell a AR-15 rifle to a police officer from California. He came into my shop and wanted to buy his duty gun in AZ because the same gun in his home state would cost him more. I told him that I would not sell him the gun even though he had his department letter saying he was able to buy it. I told him that if the gun was not legal for law abiding men and women in CA I would not sell it to him. After he told me that “civilians don’t need them type of guns,” I asked to leave my shop. He stomped out mad.

    I have made a decision to not sell to any gun to police department that are not legal for civilians. We build custom AR-15 and have sold more then a few to cops in a few states. I am not sure how this will effect us but as we grow and our name gets out there more we will not change this policy.

    Following New York’s gun control laws, Steve Adelmann, of Citizen Arms, made the following statement on the home page of his company’s website:

    ”Due to legal, ethical and moral concerns, Citizen Arms offers only those custom firearms that are legal for all lawful citizens of a given state to possess, regardless of law enforcement status. LE personnel living in states where citizens must have restrictive features will only receive like product support from Citizen Arms. We’re very appreciative of the sacrifices made by the law enforcement community but we’re even more appreciative of the right guaranteed to all law-abiding US citizens by the Second Amendment to the US Constitution: ‘A well regulated militia, necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.’”

    If you know of other companies that are joining in this protest against attacks by tyrannical Federal and State governments, please click on the “Contact” button at the top of the page and send me a link to the company’s statement and I’ll add it to the growing list. Please consider supporting companies like these as they value freedom and the responsibility we have to both keep and bear arms.

    Firearms Policy Coalition offers a digital option for those wishing to send an email encouraging companies to get on board with this movement.

    Ronnie Barrett posted the following letter at the company’s Facebook page:

    Barrett opposes those who are illegally disarming the American public from their efficient arms and creating superior armed elitist government agencies.

    Elected state officials of New York, having been sworn to protect our Constitution, have instead committed an offense against it and their citizens by stripping inalienable rights duly protected and guaranteed under the Second Amendment. By their deliberate and sinister actions, these officials now cause their state and local policing agencies to enforce these unconstitutional and illegal so called “laws”.

    By current law, Barrett cannot be an accomplice with any lawbreaker, therefore, cannot and will not service or sell to New York government agencies. Barrett also applies this stance to the individual elected official who, as a matter of public record, has voted for or created regulation that violates the constitutional rights of their citizens. This is an expansion of our 2002 ban against the California government due to their second amendment infringements, and shall apply to any future violators.

    In the course of world history there have been officials that strip inalienable rights from the people that were given to all by our Creator. Most of these officials inevitably come to trial, some do not.

    Intentionally violating constitutional rights by officials that have sworn to uphold them should have severe prison sentences.

    With the clear vision of horrible events in history repeating itself, all manufacturers of firearms or related equipment remaining in partnership with such violators should have a respectable fear of being found with the guilty on their day of trial.

    During this era of assault on liberty, Barrett will remain steadfast in our efforts to serve law-abiding citizens of all fifty states, and stands together with you in the struggles we will fight and win.

    Ronnie Barrett
    Chairman and CEO
  12. Sam1911

    Sam1911 Moderator

    Oct 22, 2007
    Central PA
  13. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Participating Member

    Dec 27, 2012
    Huh? You posted a link to this thread.
  14. smalls

    smalls Senior Member

    Feb 8, 2011
    Macomb County, MI
    You can add Wilson Combat to the list, effective today:

    Wilson Combat will no longer provide any products or services to any State Government imposing legislation that infringes on the second amendment rights of its law abiding citizens. This includes any Law Enforcement Department, Law Enforcement Officers, or any State Government Entity or Employee of such an entity. This also applies to any local municipality imposing such infringements.

    States currently included in our No-Sale Policy are:
    New Jersey
    New York
    Washington D.C.
    The City of Chicago, Illinois
    Wilson Combat will in NO way support the government of these states or their anti-gun agenda that only limits the rights of law-abiding citizens. Wilson Combat will continue to supply any product and/or service they can legally sell in these states to all non-government affiliated citizens.

    Ryan Wilson,
    Vice President
  15. Eb1

    Eb1 Senior Member

    Jan 15, 2008
    Were is Smith and Wesson and Glock? Why are they not on that list? They would loose to much money? A few choice words could be said for them. Hopefully they will come around, but I seriously doubt it.
  16. NosaMSirhC

    NosaMSirhC New Member

    Nov 9, 2009
    Wilson is a big deal. Not as big a Glock of S&W but it's starting to get some real traction...

    Be Safe!


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  17. Teachu2

    Teachu2 Senior Member

    Jan 17, 2012
    Keene, CA
    In times of panic buying and long backorders, it's pretty easy for companies to state who they will exclude - they can't keep up with demand anyway. The test will be when demand falls off.
  18. rooter

    rooter member

    Feb 22, 2008
    How many firearms does Wilson sell to state governments annually?

    Wow, a bunch of companies, many of whom have never sold ANYTHING to a LE agency to begin with, "taking a stand" by vowing not to sell to them. Effective! Why not include the Federal Govt. as well?

    I also see cheaper than dirt on the list, which is comical considering the way they rape consumers.

    Certainly there are more intelligent means!
  19. joeschmoe

    joeschmoe Participating Member

    Dec 27, 2012
    What are your suggestions?
  20. Fireforger

    Fireforger New Member

    Mar 20, 2011
    Let's see... what would prevent those on the naughty list from straw purchases (i.e., a friendly agency buying for them)?

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