CMP M1 for High Power?

[DJKnoop]

Just to piggy back on the OP, thanks for all the info! I'm newly returned to comp shooting and had the same question.

One other thing, where the heck are these $900 RRA NM A2s?

 

[Docmedic]

Not sure of that either, I bought a "really slightly used" RRA NM A4 for just over $1000 last year, and I thought that was a steal

 

[dzelenka]

Just to piggy back on the OP, thanks for all the info! I'm newly returned to comp shooting and had the same question.

One other thing, where the heck are these $900 RRA NM A2s?

At Rock River. The last time I bought one (actually 4), dealer cost was $850. Most dealers will do a transfer for $25 or less. Just find a dealer who is willing to make the $25 and use his FFL to buy one at dealer cost.

Also, they sell them pretty cheap at Camp Perry during the National Matches.

Finally, if they charge more than that for a factory RRA NM, don't buy it. For $299 you can get a RRA NM complete lower and for $750 you can get a White Oak Armament upper with pinned sights. There is $150 greater value in the WOA set-up. Anything more than about $900 for a factory RRA NM is not getting your best value.

 

[skidooman603]

Yes $875 for RRA NM at Perry last year..35 W did I see you are shooting 6.7 gr of bullseye powder through that K-31? I take it that's with cast bullets??

 

[35 Whelen]

35 W did I see you are shooting 6.7 gr of bullseye powder through that K-31? I take it that's with cast bullets??

Yes and yes.
35W

 

[DJKnoop]

Yes $875 for RRA NM at Perry last year..35 W did I see you are shooting 6.7 gr of bullseye powder through that K-31? I take it that's with cast bullets??

Thank you for that heads up! I don't know that I'll be shooting Perry this year, but as its less than 2 hours away I was certainly looking to make a trip to gawk at the vendors. And at that price I can't afford not to get a decent rifle!

 

[skidooman603]

Good thing for me I don't live less than 2 hours from the North store. I would be more broke than I already am

 

[P-32]

When you are ready, look at a Fulton Armory.
Below is from their web site: Fulton Armory M1 Garand Service Rifle (FFL Required)

I am not going to say Fulton Armory does not build nice rifles because they do. The problem I have is they are very proud of their products. There are cheaper ways to go. If you want a good match tuned M-1, PM me and I will give you a gun plumers name and address.

For and AR what I would do is get a RRA NM lower and put either a WOA or WOP upper on it. The RRA NM AR's are fine rifles no doubt, but it's ahrd to beat a White Oak.

 

[MtnCreek]

For and AR what I would do is get a RRA NM lower and put either a WOA or WOP upper on it.

I'm going with an AR built. What's the difference between WOA and WOP?
Thanks.

 

[P-32]

A good question. WOA and WOP are divisions of each other if you will for White Oak. If I understand things right, RRA and WOA use the same barrels (Wilson) and both use the Wylde chamber which means it will shoot 223 or 5.56 well. The main difference is White Oak Arms and White Oak Precision offer pinned rear sights.The nice thing about pinned sights is they don't move around and wiggle like a normal A-2 sight will. White Oak Precision offers a better barrel and the owner, John does the work. WOP also uses a Wylde chamber which I really like.

I have two WOP uppers and could not be happier with them. I bought a RRA NM lower and then when my upper came in, pushed two pins and had a top shelf Match AR. The rifle shot well from the start. I made Master a few matches later. Then this upper has a lot of mileage so I ordered another WOP upper this time with a Kreiger barrel. Hoo boy. I never knew what the rave was about but this barrel makes no copper.

The first upper then got it's own lower, again a RRA NM. I use this rifle as a loaner, Shoots good enough still I can hook you or I use it for reduced matches and save the Kreiger upper for full a across the course matches.

 

[Harvey/ Ga]

A match grade upper for your AR lower would be the better way to go. Get at least a 1-8 twist barrel...1-7 is better. My old Colt HBAR, with 1-7 twist, match grade sights and trigger from Compass Engineering, Fla. has shot to 1000 yards with 80 grain bullets.

You're in W. Ga....I'd contact Compass lake and see how much he'd charge for a match grade upper and trigger job on your lower...41/2 lb. is standard for CMP matches.

I shoot at Riverbend gun club (rbgc.org) PM me and if you're reasonably close, I can let you shoot it.

 

[bobsmith]

I started shooting high power with an M-1 then went to a Winchester model 70. I was very competitive with other shooters who were shooting M1A's and AR's. I bought myself an AR and tried it for a while and didn't like the short sighting radius. I almost always shot the highest scores in our club at the reduced 600 yard slow fire stage (300 yards) with that model 70. It was put together by Master Class Stocks and loved 168 Sierra Match Kings in a Winchester case with 42.0 gr. of 4064 and a Rem 9 1/2 primer.

Realistically though, if your trying to get into high power, the most economical gun to start with would be a good AR. Make sure your gun shoots good then work up to it's potential. I've seen guys sell good guns when the problem was with the shooter, not the gun.