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Cobra Patriot .45 ACP Report

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by MurrayNevada, Feb 17, 2004.

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  1. MurrayNevada

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    Cobra Patriot .45 ACP Report

    I want to begin by saying that I am a novice compared to many of you folks. The below review is just my laymans impressions of this pistol.

    I received my Cobra Patriot .45 yesterday morning.

    Out of the Box:
    The Patriot, in the past, was produced by Republic Arms. Republic Arms was purchased by Cobra Enterprises of Salt Lake City and they now produce the Patriot .45. While awaiting the arrival of my Patriot I read everything I could about the gun including subscribing to the Yahoo Republic Arms Patriot .45 newsgroup:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RepublicArmsPatriot45/

    Due to my reading about the Republic Arms version of the Patriot I was expecting a much less refined pistol than the Cobra Enterprises model I received. The Patriot was much more “finished†than were my P-11, P-32, P3AT, and P-40 Kel-Tecs. None of the machine marks were present inside or outside the stainless steel slide. There were also no machine marks on the stainless steel barrel including the feed ramp. The frame is all polymer.


    Fluff and Buff:
    I did a Kel-Tec like F&B. The trigger pull is heavier and rougher than the Kel-Tecs and I did some F&B on the striker assembly components which somewhat helped the trigger roughness.


    Range:
    I went to the range this morning with 50 rounds of Win White Box FMJ (USA45AVP) and 50 rounds of Win White Box JHP (USA45JHP). The Patriot .45 is the first self loading pistol that I have fired the first 100 rounds through, without any malfunctions, in quite a while. This includes a recently purchased Kahr and Glock. POA equaled POI at 7 yards (I limited the first range session to 100 rds at 7 yards). The trigger lost some additional “roughness" during these first 100 rounds.

    I disassembled the Patriot .45 for cleaning and was happy to see that one hundred rounds had caused no galling or damage to the polymer rails or stainless steel parts of the pistol. I am very happy with this new addition and now have the lightweight .45 ACP I have been looking for. I would recommend the Cobra Patriot .45 to my Kel-Tec friends without reservation. Give them a look at:
    http://www.cobrapistols.com/products/doubleaction.htm
     
  2. November

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    I have the old Republic Arms version, and have had zero problems with it as well. I see them at the shows and may pick up another just because I am a big fan of the design and caliber.
     
  3. MurrayNevada

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    It is little known but the Patriot .45 was designed by world famous firearms designer Nehemia Sirkis. Sirkis was a member of the Israeli national shooting team for 20 years and won the Israeli title seven times during his athletic career.

    Sirkis is one of the world's foremost weapons designers. In 1997, he joined Kimber of America, one of the world's top gun manufacturers (located in Yonkers, New York). The Patriot .45 is a really well designed pistol and also bargain.
     
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    Didn't he also design the Intratec CAT-9?
     
  5. Tamara

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    Maybe, but he sure doesn't put it on any resumes. ;)




    In all seriousness, I think my gunsmith summed up the CAT's pretty well: "You know, if they'd spent about $1.50 more per gun in the manufacturing, these might've been worthwhile little pistols." :)
     
  6. Tropical Z

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    Besides the gun,what else was included? Two mags? What is the mag quality? Anybody have stats on what kind of velocity you can get out of a 3" barrel with say a 200gr HP?
    Thanx
     
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    If you don't mind, what price do they usually sell at?
     
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    Yeah, but that would have just about trippled the manufacturing costs, wouldn't it? :p

    On the Patriot, I think of it as a more extreme Glock... Rugged, burable, reliable and butt-ugly. Just on a cheaper scale. I haven't even handled one of the new ones, but put several rounds through an older Republic Arms version and had no problems that I can recall. Nice gun for the price, if a bit clunky but a very worthy alternative to Hi Points and Rugers.
     
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    Congrats on your purchase. I considered one myself years ago, but I let the guy behind the counter talk me into spending twice as much.

    Is it just me, or does the Patriot 9 look JUST A TAD like the Kel-Tec P32-P3AT????

    [​IMG]
     
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    The Patriot mags are of good quality. They MIGHT be Mec-Gars. In any case, the Patriot can also use regular old 1911 mags (Officer's size fits best). Sale price is usually $250-$300. I paid $265, but I wouldn't feel terrible if I had spent a little over $300.
     
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    nice report, thanks :)
     
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    Thanks,

    I'm gonna check and see if my local shop has one I can check out.
     
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    I think Patriot mags are made by Pro Mag, not known for their precision or quality. The Colt Officer's mags, which seem to work fairly well, are higher quality. I have had jamming problems with both kinds of mags. And the Patriot has done a good deal of damage to my trigger finger. So I have mixed feelings about this pistol.

    Drakejake
     
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    Old Magazines for the Republic Arm Patriot were made by USA Mags then they switched to newer Magazines that are made by ProMag. Not sure who Cobra now has make their mags but probably ProMag. Haven't had any problems with mine (magazines or gun) Check old my Patriot Pages for more information on the Patriot.
    JR


    http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page1.html
    http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page2.html
    http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page3.html
    http://www.geocities.com/johnboyp45/page4.html
     
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    No, actually it looks just like a certain pistol who's name escapes me (not a Kel-Tec). And that's what scares me.
     
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    [​IMG]

    If somebody can tell me what defunk company made a virtually identical gun to this, I'll buy you a cookie. :D

    I've only seen them in the black slide variation, but I think there was a stainless slide as well.

    Hint #1: It had a reputation for blowing up in people's faces.

    Hint #2: I'm not talking about Republic Arms.

    Why can't I think of the name??? I almost bought one until I went online and did a little research on TFL and Packing.org courtesy of google.com....

    I keep thinking Heritage Stealth, but that's 100% for sure not the gun I'm thinking of, cuz it doesn't look like it, but the name comes to mind for some reason. I'm thinking though that it had a name like a snake? With an R in it, but not Raven of course....

    OMG this is driving me nuts.

    I have a semi-photographic memory so I know I'm right!!! :D
     
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    grendel? for snake names, you DO know that the guns in question are made by cobra right?
     
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    No, that's not it. I'm thinking it was made by a pissant manufacter in California in the early to mid-nineties (not grendel)...but I'm not sure that it was made there. It had a specific name.

    Absolutely. I don't think that's why I'm thinking snake though.
     
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    well, the intratec protec 25 looked a bit like that.
     
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    No, I'm sorry that's not it either. The gun I'm thinking of looks virtually identical to the one pictured. In fact I would assume it's basically the same thing.
     
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    how about the sundance boa?

    edit..doesnt look close enough, sorry.
     
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    I'm gonna have to obsess about this overnight, with any luck it'll come to me in an early morning dream.
     
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    Well, speaking of pissant cali pistol manufacturers, this is what comes to mind.

    Sundance Industries
    Arcadia Machine & Tool (AMT
    Phoenix Arms
    Davis Industries
    Lorcin Engineering
    Bryco Arms
    Raven Arms
     
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    I don't think any of those manufacters are right and I've heard very much of them all. I know this is as frustrating for you as it is for me. It is somebody I had just heard of a few months ago as well. I had never heard of them previously, but their pistols did seem to get around.

    I originally found this gun by searching for ultra cheap junk a few months back on gunbroker. Then I read some reviews on it. The guy had the gun listed for like $90 NIB. Maybe I didn't mention for certain before, but it was 9mm.
     
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    Sedco? they used to be in lake elsinore, and produced some ugly crap.
     
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