Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Turkeytider, Dec 24, 2021.
I'm not anal about keeping the barrels clean. I will clean the action of any crud that could lead to a malfunction and wipe down the exterior. But barrels are only cleaned as needed.
"Cold shooter" VS "cold barrel" thing.
Taking the cold shooter out of the equation, I believe that cheaper, non-stress relived barrels can walk as they heat, but I believe that the clean VS fouled barrel has a larger impact. My SOP is to practice with my rifle throughout the year, clean before the season starts and then fire 3-5rds to confirm zero and foul the bore. The rifle then stays in that condition until it needs to be cleaned.
Should something happen, rain, taking a spill etc that get's moisture in the barrel, I will clean immediately, then again confirm zero with 3-6 rounds. Bottom line is I'm not hunting with a clean bore.
Science, yes, but art, too, and art takes practice and experience, not just what the book says, because what the book says doesn't always work exactly the way it says it should in real life, and it's the art that takes over and compensates for that. OK, enough philosophy. Have a Merry Christmas!!
This is very true. Expect the unexpected at times. I have a Savage Model 12 with the heavy varmint barrel that goes against the norm here. A cold bore shot has the same POI as the 5th or 10th round fired. Most of my other rifles will not do that.
If a rifle does walk when the barrel gets hot, fix the rifle.
“Clean bore” offset is real, and clean bore hunting is asking for trouble. Foul the bore, leave it fouled through the season.
This is my method as well
I completely agree and that is what I do.
I`m sure this is all correct. At 74 it`ll take a MAJOR shift in attitude to put away a dirty gun. My Dad will spin in his grave. Then again, the only rifle he ever shot to any extent was a Browning BAR in the Pacific.
Next I went to 200, made a small adjustment to the scope, and fired this shot.
I put it back in the case and didn’t futz with it any more. It’s ready to hunt. It will get cleaned when my hunting season is over
Really depends on the gun and the ammo, neither are created equal. There are some very good match 69-77 grain .223 ammo available and also some very good varmint ammo. I run a 'thrown together' load of TAC, Sierra 77 grn OTMs, CCI BR4s and PMC brass that's just FL sized and run through a TrimmIt2. It will hold sub MOA out to 600.
307yds, 3rds, stop shooting when I broke the carriage bolt off:
This fall I had a couple guys out that I shoot IDPA with to have a .223 shoot. We shot steel out to 600 and a couple of the guys were using factory match, one was using factory varmint. None had issues out to 600.
It depends on the factory load and your barrel. Hornady black 75gr bthp's shoot 1-1/2" groups at 300yds in my Ar15 with 1/7 twist barrel and still give nice groups well past 300.
Other factory loads in the same gun will not group so well. If the bullet stays stable and doesn't tumble or oscillate, the gun should be able to make accurate shots out to 600yds or more, but the shooter might not.
The light barrel will walk if it heats but that isn’t how it gets used.
Clean bores are for long term storing, not hunting.
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