College Campuses Breeding ground for 2a hate?

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  1. kirklandkie

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    Let me first start out by saying that i am a full time college student in CT, specifically Central CT State. Given the recent news about this college i already knew there were some people who blatantly disagreed with the idea of CCW on campus but i didn't know just how many.
    The marksmanship club here is organizing an empty holster week on campus for the week of april 20th and i've been printing off and posting fliers for the event. The first day i personally went out i had approx 8 fliers (gotta start somewhere) and i hung them in stairwells and at least one in the campus dining hall. Today to my dismay i went by where i had posted all of these, and all but 1 has been torn down!
    As a response i have printed off 75 of these posters and am hanging them all around campus (gonna beat the anti's with numbers).
    it seems to me that the agendas supported by colleges in my area are universally liberal and anti-gun in nature. My question for all of you is:
    Have you ever experienced the college campus stigma against firearms?
    Why do you think it's so prevalent?

    -kirk
     
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    oops... could a mod please fix the title of this thread? it should be: "College Campuses Breeding Ground for 2a Hate?"
    thanks

    -kirk
     
  3. AlexIT

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    Yeah I have encountered it here at UTSA, University of Texas at San Antonio. I think it is so prevalent is that many people will listen to the bull ***** that the non-science/math professors spew. That and they think that CNN would NEVER report something that was not the infallible truth.
     
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    Many of them have never shot a firearm and are not familiar with safely operating one. They fear what they don't understand I guess. The Editor-in-Chief of my college campus newsletter recently published an article that was slanted to left: http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=438955
     
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    This isn't news. Colleges have been 'breeding grounds' for anti-2A, anti-establishment, anti-this, anti-that sentiments since the 60's.
     
  6. Kind of Blued

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    My campus has an anti-gun policy, even thought it's 100% legal for me to carry there.

    As far as the instruction, it depends on the teacher as an individual. I can't give an accurate response since I'm studying criminal justice. Half of my teachers get paid to carry a gun.
     
  7. JImbothefiveth

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    Same reason they have other "less than real" ideas. They are generally indoctrinated by the proffessors.
     
  8. SpecialKalltheway

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    I carry on a daily basis to class. LEGALLY! Just last year there was a revision of the CCW policy on campus to make the wording more clear. When this happened the anti's scream and whined "we can't let guns on campus they are to dangerous!" Luckily it was an easy argument to win. "Uh guy, this is just a revision of the policy that has been in effect since 2003, so you ha been on a campus that has allowed guns the entire time you've been here!" that shut them up pretty quick.
     
  9. KBintheSLC

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    My school is packed full of "progressive, open-minded" young "liberals" who think that gun ownership is a relic of yesteryear. Thankfully, our State Legislature and school administrators have a bit of sense and allow CCW permit holders to carry.

    Most of these "anti" youngsters still think the world is a happy place where good things always happen to good people.

    Funny how someone mentioned "anti-everything". I have to admit, it is impressive how they can hate so much, yet claim to be open-minded and tolerant.

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    This isn't news. Colleges have been 'breeding grounds' for anti-2A, anti-establishment, anti-this, anti-that sentiments since the 60's.

    I teach on a college campus every day and don't find this to be the case at all. It's a gross generalization, in fact, and an outdated one as well. College campuses are a reflection of the times, and Flower Power and hippies and all the rest of it have long been dead and laid to rest on the college campuses that I know about and frequent, never to return.
     
  11. floods

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    I think that's some of it, but there's also the aspect of life in a bubble. I'm only about 2 years removed from college, it's easy to have anti/liberal views when you're living more sealed off from the "outside world." Once you graduate and (hopefully) get a job, then start thinking about your future. . . well, a lot of your views change. ;)
     
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    Yes and No.

    Here at Eastern Kentucky University, a healthy gun culture is present, but at the same time there are still uneducated and misguided people who think that guns just breed violence...
     
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    Graduating, getting a job, paying taxes and watching the new crew of students attack your new way of life is the standard wake up call.

    Here in Santa Barbara, we've had great success at our local range introducing many UCSB and city college students to firearms, both genders.
     
  14. Gamera

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    That's what irks me the most. These are the type of people that have the "question authority" bumper stickers on their cars, yet when you-know-who says that guns are bad and that they kill children and policemen, they blindly accept it as fact, without doing any research on their own. Ugh.
     
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    Well after 5yrs of college I came up with one thing. The lazy smelly anti America bums of the 60s are finally having there day. These washed up idiots are warping the minds of the uneducated youth. I say this because most kids coming out of high school barely know how to read and write let alone think for themselves. The watered down American history and world government classes have less information then a 1hr special on History. I was lucky my granddad made me listed to Rush since the mid 90s and from that I develop a very very strange thing MY OWN OPIONION! Most people I meet today that are a few years younger then me are so close to being socialist in there political views I worry. The mass amount of these kids that are out voting may keep the flow of socialist radicals BHO in power for a very long time!


    I mean crap millions today use the Dailey Show for there political news!
     
  16. jerkyman45

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    I think here in the northeast there is something of an anti gun sentiment that is, if anything, based on ignorance of firearms. I'm in RI, and I have found that most people are somewhat anti-2A, but the thing is that when most are confronted about the topic they don't know much about it. If you give the majority of people a brief education on the topic they will see your point of view. For most people in the Northeast they just don't have any experience with firearms. I don't think colleges in general are anti-gun, when I was in Texas I found many of the people there I met were both pro-gun and knew their firearms. While there are some rabid anti-gun liberals on college campuses in the northeast, I've found most to be too ignorant of the topic to give it very much thought.
     
  17. Yellowfin

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    This is precisely why we need to fight for campus carry, because not only is it to fight the anti 2A ideology there, but to keep it from spreading. Universities are THE breeding ground for the antis--if they lose the campuses they are FINISHED. The anti gun movement will be eventually totally eradicated if we get campus carry. If you put people among living examples of why carry rights and gun rights work, they see the lies of the antis for what they are. If that lie is up for questioning, then so are all the other lies of the left.

    This is why they have inexhaustibly clung to dominating the academic world and why they fight against campus carry with everything they have.
     
  18. IN>IL

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    It depends on the professor... I am a college professor, and if I had my druthers, I would have a gun shop and an indoor shooting range in my office! I would give a huge student discount and encourage all students to carry openly on campus!

    But then, that's just the way I roll!
     
  19. hso

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    Your experience isn't unique, but you shouldn't assume it is universal either.

    A lot has to do with the region and the specific campus. You'd be surprised to find that there are campuses with entirely different attitudes.

    Also, consider that if all you did was hand 8 fliers in those different high traffic areas it doesn't take anything but one "anti" passing by to rip them down out of the hundreds of people that may have walked by. Remember that any real act of activism requires real work be put into it.
     
  20. Crash_Test_Dhimmi

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    Wow, brings me back to my days at the University of Cincinnati. I got pretty good at flier posting.

    Since the Libs cannot debate issues, they resort to silencing (Which is ironic since they hate silencers too).

    I would post a small poster, and tape all sides of it to the wall/door/bulletin... etc and then over it post a second or even third even larger poster on top of it, all the while taping all sides to the wall, making it difficult to get the all too important first rip to pull it down.

    They rip off the first layer, and oh looksy, another poster, talking about the vanguards of free speech (Libs) trying to silence the opinions of others regarding the said topic.

    It is labor intensive but enjoyable when you walk in on someone in the hallway yanking the first layer down and seeing the look on their face as they see the second layer.

    Those were the days.
     
  21. Sixtigers

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    College, though a wonderful environment, is not exactly representative of a cross-section of America. I for one do not believe that our cause is "lost" if we cannot sway those hallowed halls of learning to our side of the debate. I'm not denigrating college students, but I will suggest that for the most part (and this is only my opinion), many have a very limited grasp on real life, having lived from one safe, protected shelter to the next. Opinions change with life experience, and these young people are--effectively--brand new to the world. I would offer that they're emulating the mores and attitudes of their mentors and peers, and not through any overly-strong conviction of their own. True, they may feel strongly about their position on guns, but wouldn't it be safe to say that they picked up on that attitude through immersion, and not experience? For instance: Why is there not a concurrent attitude in re firearms with their blue-collar peers? I don't often (OK--I never!) see young people in that particular age group rallying to protest the "foolishness" of the 2nd Amendment who aren't in college.

    As has been stated on here many times before: Young and liberal shows heart; Age and conservatism shows wisdom.

    For those students on campus now fighting the good fight: Know that you are on the right side of this debate, and there are many, many supporting you. Keep the faith, brothers and sisters! And from me--thank you for trying.

    Respectfully, Sixtigers
     
  22. Tamlin

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    I have a different experience. I'm currently in law school at the University of Arizona, and I've noticed that (1) there is a small group of students that are anti-gun; (2) there are a good number of students that are pro-gun; and (3) most everyone else doesn't seem to care one way or another. That third group is liberal, but in the way that they recognize the right to have guns, and their position is, "I don't own a gun, but I don't care if you do." I have a similar position when it comes to smoking marijuana: I don't do it, but I don't care if you do [caveat: IF you are an adult and IF you do it in the privacy of your own home.]

    It's very easy to have a conversation with an anti in law school: They can understand that ALL of our constitutional rights are important, not just the ones protected by the First Amendment.
     
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    College is trying to poison my soul.

    But there are good people here. My school, Texas A&M, isn't as bad as most.

    We have our idiots. And sadly half of them are professors or other teaching assistants.
     
  24. BunnyPuncher

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    I'm an atheist libertarian(ish) pro-RKBA faculty member at a private Catholic university that can't seem to decide what its identity is (some faculties lean far left, some lean middle). I expect the campus to try to stay "gun free" if the Texas legislature allows campus carry.

    When students ask how my weekend was I unabashedly talk about the USPSA club matches I attend and talk about firearms. I've used the gun-control debate as a case study of how you can use, abuse and propagandize with statistics. My students know I'm pro-gun, a god-less heathen and a bit of a crank when it comes to policy issues. They also know I don't mind them disagreeing with me and encourage them to argue passionately (and in my class we argue loudly!).

    Some students are uncomfortable with some of the things I say, some love my class because they exposed to someone very different from other profs, and many probably just want a damn grade :)

    Students are very varied in their beliefs. Yeah, the anarchists/progs/activists get all the attention, but most just keep their heads down, work as hard as they are motivated to do, party, and look forward to or dread the future. In my experience, faculty are slightly less varied in their beliefs, but students believe what they believe as they evolve via experience and the crap we profs spew is measured, considered, accepted, rejected or ignored. Students have agency, this "scary lib-prog-commie prof" meme is imho insulting to students - they don't brainwash easy. It takes a certain type of student to go ANSWER just like it takes a certain type to go Bunker Bob.

    I'm rambling. A professional hazard :)
     
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