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College students with CCW or those not allowed to carry at work.

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by synoptic, Oct 7, 2003.

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  1. synoptic

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    For those of you who can't carry during the main part of your day, either because you're a student or your job won't allow you to, what do you do with your pistol? Do you lock it in the car so you have it if you go anywhere after class/work? Or do you leave it at home and just do without if you decide to go somewhere between class and home? And I realize concealed is concealed, but I work on campus as well and my work is not condusive to keeping a pistol concealed. (I'm a computer/network/electrical technician in a building that trains police officers, chiefs, US marshals, etc... and I am crawling around on the floor alot chasing cables and such). I'm just curious to see what everyone else does. As soon as my holster comes in I am going to have to make a decision for myself...

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  2. mtnbkr

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    I don't carry at work, I don't carry to/from work unless I know I'm going somewhere other that to/from the office. Simply having the gun in the car is a liability because I have to go into DC or places where the contents of my car are checked. It's too much uncertainty and risk.


    Chris
     
  3. Kcustom45

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    I believe that IUPUI has a place where you can have you gun locked up for you while you are in class. I do know that if you are caught with a gun in school they can kick you out. If you choose to carry or not would be up to you, but be aware of the risks.

    When I go to work I have to leave my gun at home, because I don't want someone to break into my truck and find my gun. I do, however, ALWAYS have a knife on me so that I am not completely defenseless.
     
  4. Flashpoint

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    I usually just leave mine at home, because I go to school I go home and go to sleep and repeat. There has been a few times when I knew I was going to be working late in the computer lab on projects and took my pistol with me. If I ever have to leave mine in the Jeep and I'm worried about a break in I take the barrel and spring with me.

    BTW I think the laws against carring on college campus are ludicrus.

    *edited for very bad typoes :(
     
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  5. DMK

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    In NC, it's a felony to leave the gun in the car if you park on campus property. Park off campus or leave it at home.
    I have to leave it at home, relying instead on my wits, pocket knife, taclight and OC for self defense. :cuss:

    That's NC state law, you might want to check TX law carefully.
     
  6. MeatWagon

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    Conceal it when needed.
     
  7. AUTIGER04

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    Im not allowed to carry at work. But, I just keep my mouth shut and carry my Kel Tec P32 at All Times.:D
     
  8. The Undertoad

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    It's not illegal to carry at my school, but it's against policy...it could get you kicked out of school. :( And there were several armed robberies and muggings on campus last year, as well as a drive-by in the town. But god forbid we defend ourselves...You know what they tell the girls? "Don't carry a weapon because it will be used against you. Here, have this nice whistle to blow in case you're being raped." :banghead: Not only that, but the whistles don't even work very well. A friend hypothesized that maybe a potential rapist came up with this plan? :rolleyes: :barf:
     
  9. synoptic

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    Thanks for all the replies

    I agree, there are LOTS of attacks on college campuses, making them a fairly dangerous place at night time.
    We can keep our guns in our cars in texas, parking lots and driveways do not count as the premises and are only illegal if there is a 30.06 sign posted at the lot. I'll probably end up just leaving the gun at home when it is time for school unless I know I am going to be leaving straight from the campus to go somewhere. Luckily I live in a fairly safe town, but I've found that the times you think you'll need it the least is when you'll probably need it the most.
     
  10. Aikibiker

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    I generally leave mine at home and just carry my Florida school legal "common ordinary pocket knife" a Spyderco Police model. That's because I ride a motorcycle to class and don't have a secure place to leave my gun while in class.

    On the rare occasion I get a ride from my Mom (rain or extreme cold) I leave my pistol and spare ammunition under the seat in the holster then put it on as soon as I get back in the car. This is legal in my state.

    I agree with everyone prohibition of CCW on college campuses is dumb.
     
  11. Chairman Meow

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    I work in a federal building but I'm not sure if I can carry or not. The building is leased to the government and there are no signs posted, but I am a little hesitant to go around asking. I commute at least once a day to the University of Utah where concealed carry has been a big issue on campus recently. I am not exactly sure what the policies are at either place, but I am looking into a serious lock box for my truck so that I can choose when to carry and when not to and still feel safe about leaving my gun in the car. I recently purchased a S+W 442 for carrying when my super stylin jeans won't accomodate my full size double stack 1911. :cool: I am thinking that one of those Thunderwear systems would conceal that to a point that nobody would ever notice it, wallowing around under a desk fishing for a network cable or otherwise. Then again if I had to use it the legality would come rushing back real quick.

    * I'm picturing myself dragging a "neutralized threat" just to the edge of campus...*

    - CM

    P.S. - Damn its good to see other college students that are aware firearms people!
     
  12. Zach S

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    I leave mine at home.
     
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    Felony in the state of AR on any school property. I could leave it in my car in a pistol safe (alarm on car), but I probably wouldnt like it.
     
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    If you want a quick on-off thing that also works well as a car bag, check out the Wilderness SafePacker.
     
  16. Moparmike

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    Do you have a link to that, oh Wise Master of All Things Tactical?:)
     
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    You know, its actually a shorter distance to walk from non-campus property , and if one had a good quality lockable gun safe that nobody knew about...one can always change schools if.random vehicles occur, that in itself opens a whole new can of worms...well Like I told a certain young lady when safe installed in her vehicle..."you and I know, that is the way it will stay"."Improvise, Adapt, Overcome...and keep your mouth shut".
    We often walk each other to respective vehicles after night class...on same lot ;)

    Single mom of two has a right to defend herself in commute to/ from school/work...be a shame to have a flat on the freeway at 10:00 pm huh...come to think of it, I wouldn't like it for myself either.

    Improvise, Adapt, Overcome. Responsibility to oneself.
     
  18. Cortland

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    Well now, that's an interesting question!

    Here in Virginia our CCW law only prohibits carrying on "public, private, or parochial elementary, middle, and high schools." It makes no mention of college campuses. The one exception to this is Virginia Commonwealth University, for which a ban on firearms on campus appears in the Virginia Administrative Code (though not the Code of Virginia, so there's some legal fuzziness here). ANYWAY, the public university I attend completely prohibits all firearms, ammunition, etc. on campus. Thankfully in Virginia our Governor (a Democrat even) recently signed CCW preemption legislation which prohibits cities, counties, and *authorities* from banning the carrying of concealed weapons in areas not specifically prohibited by the state's carry law (and also preempts all existing rules and ordinances). So, in short, this means that no university (except *maybe* VCU) can prohibit firearms on campus if they are possessed in accordance with commonwealth CCW legislation.

    HOWEVER, after writing the President of my university I am told that they "stand by their statutory authority to regulate student conduct." After informing them that they cannot violate state law in doing so, I am told that they "stand by their statutory authority to regulate student conduct." Yeah ... whatever.

    The point is I carry, but do so discretely. The .45s stay at home in favor of a more highly concealable .380 or the like. So while carrying is legal in my case, being "caught" (not the right word, I know) by the administration would be a big enough pain in the arse that I do so only very carefully.
     
  19. Chairman Meow

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    The page is not loading for me at the moment, but that is the right URL...
     
  20. zahc

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    We can't even keep guns in our cars here. *full range of angry smileys*
     
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    If I leave it in my car, I've got a small pistol safe hidden in there. Still working on a way on anchoring it.
     
  22. SouthpawShootr

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    I've had a CCW permit for 8 years. I've never carried at work and my employer forbids it. I work in scrubs anyway, so it would be kind of hard to do. They don't want any guns on the property, including the parking lots. Security is a joke, so I'm reluctant to leave anything of value in my vehicle. Street parking is available. I've installed a safe in the back of my SUV for instances where I'm going someplace that doesn't allow weapons. Get something you can bolt or chain down and you'll be fine. Don't just stick it in your glove compartment or under the seat.
     
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    I work in a small manufacturing facility in a rural area that is part of a much larger company, and in turn our company is owned by a giant company with revenues in the 10s of billions.

    Our corporate policy is no "weapons or explosives on company property", and breaking policy "may subject the employee to disciplinary action, up to and including discharge."

    That said, the management at this site is pro-gun. However, there are some employees who are anti-gun, & if anyone picked up on me when I was carrying & took it to corporate HR, it could very well mean my job - I'd have a tough time keeping from getting fired.

    Our parking lot is secure - the front bumper of my car is 7 feet from the office window. I'll usually have a Mak in the glove box & keep it there for travelling back & forth.

    I have a good job, & don't want to lose it. I've weighed the risks & decided to accomondate policy (even though, technically, in the lot is company property)- but that's a personal choice.
     
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    Retired from a State agency with a no weapons policy. Carried anyway. Thankfully, I never had to reveal the thing by using it.

    The work rules had a proviso that " not all rules are applicable under all circumstances which seemed to say that the agency had full discression and could inforce a rule arbitrarily. So, i arbitrarily violated the one about guns.
     
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    As far as anyone knows, I would never carry at work. Besides, it would just get in the way of my fanny pack.
     
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