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Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MBaneACP, Feb 10, 2013.

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  1. Jitterbug

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    If you can’t beat them join ‘em, I think we need to take a cue from the liberal playbook and support candidates that we are sure can get elected in the next election cycle. The Republican Party has had some embarrassing moments in some recent elections. The mess with Tancredo cost us the Governors seat. All my liberal acquaintances had a good laugh over that and because of that stupidity we literally handed the seat to Hickenlooper on a silver platter, it was embarrassing.

    Many were shocked at how far Colorado swung into the blue in the last election cycle, I’m speculating it was due in large part to the dope smokers…supporting the legalization of pot is what got them to the polls and they inevitably voted democrat across the board. Of course the Dem’s realized this and capitalized on it as a way to build their base.

    I’m not an advocate of pot legalization especially when kids are concerned, however I do take somewhat of a libertarian viewpoint that the war on drugs is a waste of resources. I look at it as more of a mental health issue.

    If we are going to prevail in future elections we need to find minority’s who hold conservative values going forward and we are going to need to change our viewpoints on some core values before we can effectively take back some of these seats.

    Previously I’ve never paid much attention to how laws were actually made, but being able to spend a few hours watching online while my ox was being gored was educational to say the least and one thing that was reinforced beyond any shadow of a doubt is that I will never, ever again trust the judgment and integrity of a Democrat in the future.

    After reading this morning’s Denver Post article about this fiasco it’s clear what’s going on, we are a battleground state being used as an example for the direction they intend to take this nation, these ridiculous laws are just testing the waters and setting the stage for more draconian measures in the last vestige of the land of the free.

    In my mind there is only one viable solution and that is a concerted and effective movement to remove these people from office, starting now. This is 1994 all over again and for starters we need to at least double the size of the NRA, 10 million strong would be a good starting point. It’s embarrassing that with something like 80 million or so gun owners we only have 4.5 million NRA members.
     
  2. milehighjc

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    I was hoping that a good night’s sleep would soften my foul mood about this.

    It didn’t.

    In fact, the more I think about it, the more frustrated I get.

    These laws are completely unenforceable, and even if they were enforceable, would do nothing to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals or the insane: perhaps the background checks on private sales COULD have helped, but that one is so poorly written that it will have no effect.

    Nothing has been done to keep the guns out of the hands of known mentally deficient people (which would have stopped the Theater Shooting, and maybe even Newtown), and nothing has been done to try to reduce illegal trafficking of guns. All they have done is reduce the ability of law abiding citizens to protect themselves. In the case of the campus ban, the new law is outright dangerous, as it advertises to potential criminals that the students/teachers have no way of defending themselves. Gun Free Zone? How about Free Kill Zone. I am beyond frustrated, and for the first time in my life plan on getting actively involved in the next election.

    To put a fine point on it, this has become personal. One of my daughters is attending CSU. When walking across campus late at night, she calls a friend she knows that has a conceal carry permit who escorts her to wherever she needs to go - safely. She is very petite (and attractive). She would have little to no chance of defending herself. So... this morning - I decided to try ONE Google search "CSU Campus Assault". First result - September 12 2012, attempted Sexual Assault. The second hit was the Campus Security report - showing far too many assaults, sexual assaults, burglary... etc. So now our esteemed politicians have ADVERTISED to all with criminal intent that any Colorado Campus is the happy hunting grounds. This law is not meaningless; it is dangerous. It makes MY daughter less safe, and that is personal.

    For the first time in my life, I intend to be very active in the next election cycle. Sitting quietly on the sidelines while our state becomes Calirodo is not an acceptable course of action.
     
  3. Pilot

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    I am just thoroughly, and totally disgusted. I don't even know what to say.
     
  4. Jitterbug

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    milehigh, if you are not a member already I would strongly urge you to join the NRA as well as a gift membership for your daughter.

    We need a strong female membership in the NRA, woman and minority shooters are growing in leaps and bounds and we need to get them involved.

    In the meantime she can (maybe, not sure of the law or campus rules) carry pepper spray and learn some self defense techniques which is better then nothing.
     
  5. buckeye8

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    I'll ask again: For those of us not from Colorado, are these laws proposed, or have they actually been passed into law?
     
  6. Jitterbug

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    They passed out of the house, next step is the state senate and then on to the Governor, if I understand the process correctly.
     
  7. Zak Smith

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    We only need 3 (D) Senators or 5 (D) Representatives to vote against to prevent any one of these from passing.

    DO NOT GIVE UP NOW.

    I spoke to my state Senator this morning, face to face, about the economic impact to my family, businesses, and the state.

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    We need people to write short, POLITE, and to the point letters that
    they oppose these bills. Suggested reasons: economic, freedom,
    personal interest, self defense.

    I would STRONGLY recommend going after the ECONOMIC aspect of these bills, especially 1224.

    Besides the highly publicized Magpul situation (approx 600 employees), easily double that amount of small business will leave, along with various professionals who just don't want to live in Co anymore.
     
  8. Jitterbug

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    Thanks Zak, me and mine will be writing to ALL of the above no later then tomorrow.
     
  9. MachIVshooter

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    That's why we need to stay on Hick. He is not stupid, he knows that our split vote not only meant neither conservative candidate could win, but that many conservative voters just didn't bother. He is also well aware that these issues energize a base. Hand written letters are the way to go here, and lots of 'em. He needs to be reminded that there is NOT a mandate for this garbage. He knows how the large independent vote in this state works, which is why he didn't make any mention of gun control after the Aurora theatre, with elections just around the corner. People didn't feel that RKBA was at risk, and voted based on other issues. Hick needs to be told that we WON'T forget 2 and 4 years from now who attacked rights and sent jobs out of the state. He also needs to remember that there's not going to be another marijuana initiative on the ballot next time, and much of that liberal vote is going to be too lazy to go to the polls.

    And please, people, let our battles here be a reminder that is can happen to you, too. There are plenty of states that aren't at risk right now, but remember, just a short decade ago we got a bunch of pro-gun legislation.

    And Colorado residents, please don't forget about the FEDERAL battle. Keep writing those letters, too. Just because we have a GOP house does not mean the nation is safe, and it'll be more difficult to overturn federal laws than state laws.
     
  10. Jitterbug

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    Maybe we need to renew this thread with a new call to action for EVERYONE to right these Rep's even out of state folks?

    Providing all those names and addressees?
     
  11. Zak Smith

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    Here are some example letters that I have already used.
    Feel free to take snippets
     
  12. Dr.Rob

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    Since our kids 'can't have them' isn't that potentially a viloation of search and siezure?

    Colorado basically just said I can let a loved one inherit my rifle (with a background check and fees) but no standard capacity magazines to go with it.

    I'm not done writing and calling. What a mess.
     
  13. milehighjc

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    Idiots like that certainly don't help us. Unfortunately, they are out there, on both sides (how many were calling for execution of NRA executives and members recently?).
     
  15. hak

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    Damn. Read the whole thread. Disgusted. The pol's comments on its lack of effectiveness was mind blowing. It's all about control. Keep fighting.
     
  16. Steel Horse Rider

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    Zak: I was also at the meeting and heard you speak. I was standing on the north front side and spoke near the end about the ineffective way existing laws have been enforced and the lack of curiosity towards the impact of the psychotropic drugs on our youth. I looked for you afterwards but couldn't find you. I think Senator Kefalas got an eye opener but I have known him for about twenty years and don't expect him to stand up against the Democrat leadership.
     
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    All my state reps have gotten a letter from me, as did the governor.
     
  19. IlikeSA

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    Could some of the home-rule cities like Littleton or Colorado Springs go against the ban? Denver has no open carry, how about a home rule city saying "mags of any size and guns transferable without a background check." Colorado has 61 cities and 35 towns that are home rule municipalities.
     
  20. Justin

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    I contacted my rep as well as the governor, both via email and Facebook.

    Drafting letters to go out to Colorado Springs senators shortly.
     
  21. MachIVshooter

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    Emails sent (again), page-long hand written letters en route.
     
  22. dvlhntr

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    I have sent emails now individually to all the reps. I have sent had written letters, which I am sure will arrive after the official vote in the house.

    Today I am working contacting Senators and Hickenlooper.

    There are also cell phone numbers for a few of the house reps on their web sites. I urge everyone to send text message or call. Facebook pages as well.

    Please keep any contact with them professional.
     
  23. bill3424

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    I've let my few friends know in CO to do what they can to make sure you guys remain free.
     
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    Redundant....did emails n letters..again. Only replys are form mean nothing replys...still gonna do them.
    Dan
     
  25. phonesysphonesys

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    I guess we know who are our enimies are. It is going to be a long up hill fight. We need to be real active politicaly and get these people voted out of office. Colorado made national news for gun restrictions today.
    Semper Fi
     
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