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Colorado gun control

Discussion in 'Activism' started by IlikeSA, Feb 5, 2013.

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  1. IlikeSA

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    What exactly are the bills that are proposed?
     
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    Thanks for the link. There were some encouraging parts. Good to see some dems that are at least skeptical. Good to hear Hickenlooper is willing to sit down privately with the NRA.

    We can't rest on any news. We must remain vocal and vigilant.
     
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    Yup- we are facing the real deal here folks!

    One of the critical dangers of letting one party run all three section of gov't.

    The text of the bills is not out yet, but will be very interesting to see planned level of restrictions on sale/transfer/possession of > 10 rd mags, plus the new liability requirements for "assault weapons".

    Doesn't the fed gov't prohibit lawsuits against lawful firearms manufactures / distributors?

    Several rural/suburban D's have come out against said measures, plus the governor (D) has been suspiciously absent from these proclamations, only stating support for more background / metal health checks during his "State of the State" speech. He is also meeting with LaPierre on Thursday.
     
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    My understanding is that the federal government through court cases prohibits the suing of gun manufacturers for the use of a firearm in a crime. This isn't the first time that Colorado potentially stuck up its nose against the federal government though. (not that I am a federalist)

    More news with more info:
    Full legal liability for anyone who makes, buys, sells or owns an assault weapon that is used in a shooting.

    Background checks for all gun sales, even between private parties.

    A ban on sale of magazines of more than 10 bullets.

    A requirement for mental health workers to report potentially dangerous people to the Colorado Bureau of Investigation, for the purpose of gun-sale background checks.

    A stronger ban on gun sales to people with a history of domestic violence.

    A fee on background checks, paid by the buyer.

    Required in-person training for concealed weapons permits.

    A ban on concealed weapons in most parts of college campuses.

    http://www.cortezjournal.com/articl...209934/Democrats-roll-out-gun-control-bills--
     
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    My duely electeds have been contacted.
    Dan
     
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    I let my representatives know how I feel about gun control and how I expect them to vote last night. Depending on how the week looks I may contact them again.

    I haven't seen anything that indicates any bill other thatn HB1043 has been introduced which redefines a deadly weapon. There appears to be a lot of potiental for trouble from Rhonda Fields, Aurora. I'm guessing that the Denver Post picked up some of what she has proposed. Keep writing your state reps. and let them know how you feel. Like the above poster wrote, "This is the real deal." No do-overs.
     
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    Hrm, so aside from just owning something, if an individual makes an "assault weapon" for personal use (from a kit, 80% lower, etc), it's stolen, used in a crime, they are liable? That makes sense to me, count me! As much as I hate the car analogies, if someone steals my car and drives it through a bus stop I'm not liable, why would it be any different for any other piece of legally owned private property? Seems to me this would only encourage people to "anonymize" any arms they are making for their own use rather than serialize them "so they can be recovered" later. Alternately, making a trust/LLC for every personal firearm might bypass it?

    Waiting for actual bill text however I must say I am kinda happy when the crazy bananas items show up because they just torpedo the entire bill. Hopefully...
     
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    This is a big deal here in Colorado, since the Democrats now have control of both houses and the governorship at the state level. We need to hit this issue fast and hard.

    I've already sent letters to all of my lawmakers once, and I intend to do so again as these bills start to advance through the legislature.

    Colorado has had a rich gun history, and has always been a supportive state to shooters and gun owners. Many long-time residents of this state have commented for years on how we're becoming more like California, thanks in part to the influx of new residents from that west coast state, among other things.

    We're at a pivotal point in our state's history right now. Unless we want to live under the goofy laws of places like NY and CA, we can't wait to act on this issue. Write, call, e-mail, stop by the offices... it doesn't matter how you do it, but be sure your voice is heard!
     
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    Banning "high" capacity mags does not infringe....who writes this crap??
     
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    Hi everyone.
    Time to write your elected Congressman, and Senator. The squeaky wheel gets greased.
    Copy and paste this letter.

    I request you to pass legislation to Repeal the Lautenberg Amendment
    (section section 658 of Public Law 104-208 ) that Bill Clinton signed into
    law back in 1996. It serves no purpose other than to create very thin and
    questionable criteria to permanently ban citizens from their "Right to
    Keep and Bear Arms".
    Soldiers, police officers, and anyone who has been judged to have
    committed a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence has incurred a lifetime
    ban to own or possess firearms.
    As you know, a misdemeanor crime of domestic violence need not involved a
    physical crime, but a mere verbal exchange, with the punishment sometimes
    being only a $10 fine. In many metro areas, a second phone call to a
    house over a family altercation will result in the standard police
    procedure of automatically arresting the male occupant, regardless of who
    is at fault or whether any threats were made.
    Just as bad, this legislation associates gun owners with "wife beaters" as
    if the two are some how linked, which they are not. It is an intentional
    slander to law abiding citizens, a breach of Constitutional freedoms, and a
    hindrance to our military and law enforcement services. Many soldiers and
    police officers have lost their jobs over their legal ban on carrying
    weapons because of this dishonest law.
    And I won't even bother going into its unconstitutional ex-post-facto
    characteristics. Next all Misdemeanor convictions will result in a lifetime gun ban.
    If a Convicted Felon can have gun rights restore a person with a Misdemeanor conviction should have the same opportunity.

    Please work to repeal the Lautenberg Amendment.
     
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    bill text for 4 of them

    ok, actual house bills are up:
    1224 - Prohibiting Large-capacity Ammunition Magazines
    1226 - No Concealed Carry At Colleges
    1228 - Payment For Background Checks For Gun Transfers
    1229 - Background Checks For Gun Transfers

    Please write your state reps and ask them not to support these bills. You can get contact information here. or there are plenty of other places listed n this site to easily contact your elected reps.


    EDIT:
    Non CO residents. The magazine bill would require magpul (located in Boulder CO) to add unique serial numbers and MFG date to every magazine they make. This section affects you as well.
     
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    This is where it would be cool to see sheriffs declare that they will not enforce new gun control laws, state law or otherwise.
     
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    Letters (hard copy) sent, and emails (not boilerplate).

    And the residents of Colorado are voting with their pocketbooks.

    Maybe we can stand and endure the distortions and slurs and turn this, once again.

    We must!
     
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    Email(s) sent.
     
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    Apparently they believe the shooter at Virginia Tech shouldn't have to worry about students defending themselves. Are they TRYING to make it more dangerous? :fire:

    And the magazine "ban"... it doesn't make any sense! You can't transfer a magazine or sell it - but you can keep it, or make one - just as long as it's engraved with the date and a serial number? And if you can buy components to make one - how the heck are they going to know?!? I hope the lawmakers see that these just plain don't make any sense, gun rights/control or not.

    ...and apparently all shotguns with tube magazines longer than 4 rounds are illegal.... they forgot to mention that one.... :confused:
     
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    Slippery slope from "Mr DA, prove I acquired it after the ban" to "Mr Defendant, prove you had it before the ban"...
     
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    that proposed law at least specifically states the burden of proof is on the prosecution.
     
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    Sadly the east and west coasters have overwhelmed the state. Don't expect the electorate in CO to care much anymore. It's very very sad :(
     
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    Meanwhile back at the capital.....

    H.B.1229 which requires background checks for private transfers, (we know what that means), has made its way to the House Judiciary Committee and is awaiting a hearing date. Now we can discuss bills yet to be named, or, we can contact our representatives and let them know specifically what we want them to do.

    Here is the text I sent to my reps.

    Please oppose H.B. 1229 which would require background checks for firearm transfers between private individuals. This will create a de facto registration in the state and cause an unmanageable backlog for licensed dealers as well as the CBI while inconveniencing law abiding citizens. Furthermore, it will do little to prevent crime as those individuals bent on crime will disregard this law anyway.
    Thank you,


    This will only take a few minutes, I promise.
     
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