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Colorado University to Segregate Dorm for Students with Gun Permits

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Hypnogator, Aug 17, 2012.

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  1. Hypnogator

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    http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2012/08/u-of-colorado-to-segregate-dorms-for-students-with-gun-permits/1?csp=34news&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+usatoday-NewsTopStories+%28News+-+Top+Stories%29&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher

    Forced by the Colorado Supreme Court to allow students with concealed weapons permits to carry on campus, Colorado University now proposes to segregate such students in separate living facilities, will continue to ban possession in all other residences.

    Can't be too careful -- look at all the massacres at Colorado State University since they allow concealed carry! :banghead::banghead::banghead::fire:
     
  2. Sam1911

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    Ok...frustration aside, that has to be one of the funniest things I've ever read! A school-MANDATED special-interest dorm for gun-folks? SIGN ME UP! :D

    That out of the way...

    I think they're in for a very enlightening year... :D
     
  3. Hypnogator

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    Yeah. By their own estimates, 1% of the students have CW permits, and they have 10,000 students. By my math, that's ~ 100 concealed permit holders! ;)
     
  4. KevininPa

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    I guess we can.........

    ...........figure out which dorm will have the least or no violent crime!;)
     
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    Well, at the age of 21 they're probably right... very few stay in the dorms that long and the intersection of those groups is probably very small. In fact those that might have probably went off-campus for housing because of the policy, I did at my university.
     
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    Don't see how discrimination will fly now-a-days.. What's next? Color of skin? Sexuality? Religion? They better start building a ton of dorms..
     
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    The point has been made that the 21+ age of permit holders means that they're not likely to have to do this and 50 rooms may be generous.

    Also, keep in mind that they may be providing ways to secure firearms in those dorms so that permit holders are not subject to the myriad risks of theft that occur on campus.

    As Sam points out, a dorm for folks into shooting isn't automatically a bad thing.
     
  8. tarosean

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    ^ doesn't it negate the purpose of CCW and not knowing who is carrying?
     
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    If you're one of hundreds in a dorm then who knows you're carrying unless they know you're in one of those rooms? If you're out of the dorm who's to know? It isn't any different now than it will be. Got a permit? Carry or not and keep quiet about it.
     
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    Of course, all the *other* dorms will be de-facto gun-free zones. That can't possibly end badly. {sigh}

    OTOH, anyone care to bet the maturity level of the "gun-dorm" residents will be higher? Almost be worth getting a permit for others just to be in a better environment.

    Don't people go to university to get exposure to other cultures? Seems like the lawful gun culture has much to be admired :)
     
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    so the university will find all the other gun guys for me and put me in a dorm building filled exclusivly with other shooters who all share my same intrests and hobbys?!? sweet! im almost dissappointed that i have been done with my college years for a while now.
     
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    Just wait until a student sues that he is being discriminated against, and that separate-but-equal (a la Plessy v. Ferguson) doesn't fly anymore, and the university has to admit that gun ownership is a civil right. I'd love to see that press conference.
     
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    yes indeed!!!
     
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    So ... now where to lurk and rob/murder/rape students is now public knowledge AND sanctioned by the university?

    What a boon to violent criminals!
     
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    This is discrimination based upon the exercise of a right.
     
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    Some people might view this as discrimination, but I like to think of it as the creation of a fraternity without dues and hazing. Haha! I think It’s a great idea…well, everything except the part where you need to keep your gun in a safe when you’re not carrying it. Call me old fashioned, but I don’t think an intruder is going to wait for me to open my safe to defend myself. Then again, who’s robbing that dorm? :)
     
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    Given the scarcity of secure student housing just up the road from me in Boulder (elder daughter went to CU before finishing her BSN in Texas), getting a concealed carry permit may become a viable strategy for getting safe, subsidized housing.
     
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    The real issue will come when the "firearm residences" become more expensive than the others...
     
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    Or when somebody has a negligent discharge.

    I wouldn't want to live in a dorm with nothing but other licensed college students because I have a feeling that environment will make many of them far too comfortable handling their guns, and we all know what the average shooter's gun handling/safety skills are like.

    I can't help but forsee some guy pulling his pistol out of the holster in the hallway to show somebody when "it just goes off"

    (and my claim is that if it were any other random dorm with anybody and everybody the gun wouldn't have come out of the holster to begin with...)
     
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    It isn't discrimination under the law.

    The university is providing housing to CCW holders who want their firearms on campus not herding them together. They're being accommodating.
     
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    hso, they are being told, from my understanding, that if they want to exercise their right, they aren't welcomed to live in the other dorms, and must live in that one. What if the university said that since people who protest are generally loud, they all have to live in one dorm and can't live in the others. Or that we should put all of the Muslim students in one dorm because their morning prayers could awaken other students? While I too appreciate that the university is trying to accommodate these students, they are still stomping on their rights by separating them.
     
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    Echo post #2, 100%.
     
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    I agree that it sends the wrong message, i.e. "it's OK to be segregationist"

    However, I recall my college days and remember that a lot of the kids in the dorms were mind-blowingly immature and spastic. Imagine them deciding to play pranks on (or around) CCW holders.

    It might be best to keep those dumb enough to trust the school for protection seperate from those with a more mature and realistic outlook. I bet the CCW dorm will be much quieter and polite overall. Probably cleaner too.
     
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    Might as well have them all wear CCW badges to class.
     
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