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Colt AR-15 A2...

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Dacoda, May 13, 2006.

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  1. Dacoda

    Dacoda Member

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    A shop that I went to today has an ar-15 a2 on the rack, used, for $1000. Not sure of the condition. it looked nice though, haven't broken it down yet.

    It's a colt, ya think the price is ok?
     
  2. Vitamin G

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    For the sake of reference...

    I picked up a like-new bushmaster a3 (m4 style) at a gunshow for $700, and i thought it was an "okay" deal.

    Me personally, no. How much is the pony worth to you?
     
  3. model 649

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    Should be more like $750. A NIB A2 match HBAR would be more like $950-$1000. I am being offered a very lightly used A2 Match HBAR for $900 with box, etc. Yup, Colt's are nice, shop around though.
    Josh
     
  4. armabill

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    The Colt sounds too high to me.

    Shop around a bit.
     
  5. Dacoda

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    not sure if this matters or not... but it says Government on the side.. or it's abbreviated atleast.. Gov'ment or something like that.
     
  6. Roadkill

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    What yuu are looking at is the GS (government series) of the Ar15A2, its a 1980ish civilian production of the M16A2. May or may not have bayonet lug depending on date of manufacture, 1/7 twist barrel, cromed bore, heavy barrel, were about 10,000 or so made, has a large pin upper and lower so its hard to swap uppers with other configurations. I have one, is a great shooter but not more so than other models. As mentioned, prive should be in the $750to $900 depending on condition.

    rk
     
  7. Dacoda

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    Academy Sports actually has new Bushmaster AR-15 A2's for $860 new. But that's a Bushmaster. Is there much difference between the Colt and the Bushmaster? Or the S&W M&P 15 for that matter? I know the Tactical series has more rails than I'll ever know what to do with, but can you rail a Colt if you take off the carry handle? Or is the handle part of the reciever?

    I feel ignorant when it comes to AR's. I've yet to own one. Sorry.
     
  8. cracked butt

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    I just picke dup a 20" Bushmaster A3 from a Sportsman's warehouse for $860, their price for the Bushy A2 was $800. Not sure if itwas a great deal, but it gives you something to compare with.
     
  9. yci

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    Bit high in my opinion. I've snagged 2 Colt H-Bar match A2's for around or under $850 each in the past couple of years.

    I agree with the other posters, shop around a bit.
     
  10. Dacoda

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    thanks for all the help and input guys. Another thing, is Bushmaster any good? or is it just a cheap AR? and what's the difference between the A1, A2, and A3? which one gets more respect? I know the A2 has the muzzle break, but do they all have that? If I can get a new Bushmaster for less than a used Colt... that's not saying much about Bushmaster, ya know? I want an AR, just don't know enough about 'em to decide which one. Which would you get?


    Thanks.

    Anyone know the blue book value of it?
     
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  11. Dacoda

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    ok so I finally did it. with the persuasion of my friend (never bring a friend to the gun store, they'll make you buy anything). So I walked into that pawn shop, the one that had the Colt AR for $1000, I was prepared to offer him $800 cash for it right then and there. the manager was out, so I asked the idiot behind the counter if I could see it, I brought my marine friend along with me, so he could inspect the rifle with me. So the guy (idiot) behind the counter handed me the rifle, I asked him, would it be ok if I broke it down, so I could inspect the barrel? he said, "no!". that's fine, I asked him, what if I bring this thing home, and find out it's all chewed up inside, he said... "bring it back". I said, ok, well, do you have a bore light? he said "nope!", looking at my friend, who was looking at me in the same weird way, I then asked the idiot, well, do you have a flashlight I could use? he said "nope!". (no flashlights in a pawn shop? hmm...) So I turned to my friend and said... sarcastically... "wow, this guy really wants to sell this gun doesn't he?" the SOB then said to me.. "well you don't have to buy it!" OH MY GOD!!!, NO THE F*** YOU DID NOT JUST SAY THAT TO ME!!! my friend even looked at me to make sure I wasn't about to smack the life out of him. we both turned around, and walked out. I'm still thinking about calling his manager tomorrow and telling him that this guy really doesn't wanna work, and all he's doing is losing you business.

    so on a brighter side, I went to sportsmans warehouse, and after annoying the hell out of the guy there to see this one, and see that one, I finally made my decision, and bought it. an Armalite M-15A4. flat top. I figured it's the most versatile for what I want, if I wanna make it tactical and put my holographic site on it, I could. or if I wanna put a regular scope on it, I could. or if I wanna just get a carry handle with open sights, I could :)

    cost me a grand though after taxes. ouch!

    Wish me luck, I finally bought the weapon I've always wanted. Now I can stop buying for a LONG LONG time.


    - Dacoda -
     
  12. cracked butt

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    Have fun with it, I'm sure you'll be happy with it.

    Yeah right, I said that maybe 20 rifles ago.:neener:
     
  13. model 649

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    Wot HE said....(esp. about the rifles...).
    OOrah! you got something nice. Hope you enjoy it. See what happens when you have a buddy with you? It's not that THEY make you buy, it's that you have someone to INSTANTLY justify whatever:evil: . Works for me.
    Josh
     
  14. rino451

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    Congrats! I just bought two recently myself.

    FYI... (and this isn't a rant or anything...) It's easier to ask forgiveness than it is to get permission. Should have just popped the pins and taken a look. Tool behind the desk probably wouldn't even though that it was something other than standard operating procedure - which it is.

    Also, it's a firearm not a weapon unless you have different ideas. ;)

    rlw
     
  15. Dacoda

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    Any Suggestions?!

    I hate to report that I'm already having issues with this "firearm" but the magazine release button is too tight to properly load a mag in it. I've tried oiling it (of course)... and I keep depressing the button repeatedly to see if it just needs to be worn in a bit. but even that's not helping.

    Any ideas? it's already chewing up the brand new mag.
     
  16. Bartholomew Roberts

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    Can you describe exactly what is happening? Specifically is the bolt forward or locked back when you load a magazine? How do you load the magazine and who made that magazine? Can you describe what you mean by "too tight" in more detail?

    Again, what do you mean by chewing up? Can you specifically describe this?
     
  17. Dacoda

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    with or without a magazine loaded, the button itself is VERY sticky. like... if something was preventing it, ie. paint, or burrs of metal etc...

    I've been trying to work it in and out. hopefully to break whatever is obstructing it. I even tried rotating the releasing pin one full way clockwise, then one full way counter-clockwise. still nothing.

    bolt has no effect on this, like I said, the magazine isn't even in the gun. it could be cause it's still new.

    ok, about the magazine. the top of it, where it SUPPOSED to be able to push the pin outward, to lock into place, well... since the lock is so tight, the magazine is just hitting a lock that won't move. so it's scra[ping the heck out of it.

    I'm not the best at describing things. sorry.
     
  18. Harry Tuttle

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    http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/TM9-1005-319-23.pdf
    http://www.ar15.com/content/manuals/TM9-1005-319-10.pdf
    the magazine catch button is adjustable

    MAGAZINE CATCH (FUNCTION). Insert magazine into the
    well. The magazine catch should hold the magazine in
    place. Pressing the magazine catch button should release
    the magazine. To adjust the magazine catch, use cleaning
    rod to press in on the magazine catch button until the left
    side of the magazine catch sticks out beyond the receiver.
    To tighten, turn the magazine catch clockwise; to loosen,
    turn it counterclockwise.
     
  19. Stinger

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    Adjust it per the instructions in your owner's manual.

    Regards,

    Stinger
     
  20. Dacoda

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    adjusting is isn't the problem... however, if it can be adjusted, can it be completely unscrewed? if I could unscrew it, I could figure out what's holding it up.
     
  21. Dacoda

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    nevermind... it can.
     
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    if it is an origional a2 from back in the mid 80's , and truly milspec, then yes. Otherwise, no.
     
  23. Dacoda

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    figured out what is wrong. the catch (I'm assuming that's the little "L" shaped piece) has very little clearance in the reciever, so it's binding up. I could either file it down (not an option on a brand new gun) or just wait til normal wear and tear takes it's part.
     
  24. Dacoda

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    it's an armalite A4, sorry, the original post was about a colt a2. I just didn't wanna start a new thread.
     
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    Doh! Double post.
     
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