Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by CapnMac, Jan 11, 2021.
yes, more as if Honda bought Chrysler
They brought them back, saw they weren't a big seller and weren't worth the space on the production line. A business will not keep a product in production that doesn't sell.
The SAA is a different creature altogether. Colt has tried to kill off the line and every time they do. People want more of 'em. If CZ buys Colt, I doubt they'll shutter the SAA line.
Now, I do know the market is fickle and stupid. For years, Colt fans have bene complaining about the price of the SAA and wanting something like the Ruger Vaquero. So in 1999, Colt released the Cowboy, a SAA built and designed like a Ruger Vaquero. Everyone complained that it wasn't a real Colt and Colt discontinued it in 2003.
Yet the traditional SAA continued to be made.
Dan Wesson doesn't have the market share and brand recognition like S&W, Colt, and Ruger. A Dan Wesson gun was expensive, had a different cylinder release that didn't lend itself to being a "defensive" or "duty" gun, and was usually larger and bulky. CZ brought them back to see if the loud voices in the gun market clamoring for them would actually would buy them. They didn't sell, so CZ shuttered the line.
Colt has been under the ownership of Donald Zilkha since 1994 and he's run the company into the ground with his anti civilian market ideas. He was the one who killed Colt's CCW guns in the late 90s and instead directed that the company be focused on military and law enforcement sales.
It's the nature of things. The large and powerful eat the small and weak.
How many are left? It’ll accelerate now.
lol I still see an All American show up every now and then at an LGS. The only Double Eagle I ever handled was an officer's size one carried by a friend. It was neat and I tried to buy it off him, but no dice. He said it was reliable IF you used a lot of lube, which I took to mean it wasn't really reliable.
It seems to me they were already lost. If anything, this may be a rescue.
On the stuff they actually make
one word explanation: unions
Colt has been in need of adult supervision for a LONG time.
I could see Colt/DW revolvers and DW/Colt 1911's, could be a win win, especially if the Dem's invoke high cap restrictions.
There is a mistaken impression that Colt's military contracts are done for. They are not. Colt and Colt Canada, have a good deal of military contracts here and internationally. Colt, however cannot compete with FN.
CZ is moving to take a slice of the market from FN and this puts them in a position to do so.
The commercial market has been flooded with Ars for close to two decades now. While sections of the U.S. military purchase from Colt the major supplier of AR platforms in recent years has been FN. No one in the U.S., other than Colt, has been concerned with that from the point of a reliable supply chain for the U.S. military.
CZ produces excellent guns both long and short. It will improve Colt's products.
CZ makes a good product, but they understand that changes must be made to accommodate changing demands, economics and political climate. It would be great if we could export high quality firearms again.
And just when I’d saved up enough for a 715 pistol pack. This explains why they haven’t been in stock anywhere...
The ownership of the Colt facilities in the U.S. means more guns made here. It opens up more potential contract options for CZ.
CZ is good at making guns, Colt less so than it used to be.
CZ is very good at selling guns, Colt ran a legendary name nearly into the ground.
As the poster above noted, at least some of Colt's manufacturing will remain here, open and providing jobs.
Hey, y'all do understand that both Browning and Winchester are essentially FN, right?
I'd bet yes. CZ started making firearms here the last year or so. There are a number of new releases out there from April 2019 that states they selected Little Rock, AR for a manufacturing plant. Moving Colt's production offshore would be a mistake. Moving some of Colt's production down to Arkansas might make sense in the long run.
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