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Coming for our Guns...

Discussion in 'Legal' started by RaetherEnt, Jan 10, 2006.

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  1. RaetherEnt

    RaetherEnt Member

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    UN Small Arms Preparatory Committee, 9-20 January 2006

    The Preparatory Committee (PrepCom) at UN Headquarters in New York (US) is part of the UN process on small arms.

    The process began in July 2001, after years of lobbying by humanitarian organisations for the human cost of gun proliferation to be recognised. At that time, UN Member States unanimously adopted the Programme of Action on Small Arms and Light Weapons (PoA), a political agreement aiming to curb the illicit trade in guns.

    Governments agreed to review the PoA after five years. The five years will be up in June 2006, when governments will meet again at the UN Review Conference on small arms.

    The Review Conference will be an opportunity for much greater progress – if governments are prepared to take up the challenge. However, this opportunity may be lost, depending on the outcome of the preparatory meeting over the next two weeks.

    What happens at the PrepCom?
    At the PrepCom, UN Member States will decide the agenda of the high-level Review Conference in June, ie which solutions to the problem of gun violence are open for discussion.

    A number of issues were dropped from the text of the PoA in 2001, including

    regulating civilian possession of guns,
    arms transfers to non-state actors,
    and tough regulation of arms brokers.
    Experience over the last five years shows that these elements are vital to effective implementation of the PoA, and this must now be recognised.

    Many governments would now like to see some of these issues discussed; others, opposed to further controls on gun proliferation, want to restrict discussion to the topics that are already covered by the Programme of Action.

    What does IANSA want from the PrepCom?
    IANSA members are urging governments not only to include the key issues left out in 2001 (see above) in the outcome document of the Review Conference in June, but also to strengthen some of the existing provisions.

    For example, in the PoA, states agreed to ensure that small arms transfers were consistent with their existing responsibilities under relevant international law. But there is no shared understanding of what these responsibilities are.

    Therefore IANSA urges governments to adopt a set of global principles for arms transfers, based on international law, in order to close the legal loopholes exploited by arms dealers.

    IANSA is also urging governments to move swiftly towards negotiations for a legally-binding instrument to control arms brokers, wherever they operate.

    The PrepCom must lay the foundations for this progress. It must ensure that:

    the agenda for the Review Conference is open for discussion of all issues related to gun proliferation;
    non-governmental organisations can participate fully in the meeting, so that the voices of those who are dealing with the daily reality of gun violence are heard;
    decision-making is by vote rather than consensus, so that the tiny minority of states opposed to further controls on gun proliferation no longer have power of veto.
    More on the UN small arms process
    In July 2003 and July 2005, governments reported on their implementation of the PoA at the Biennial Meetings of States (BMS) at UN Headquarters in New York.

    Both meetings revealed that governments were making very slow progress on implementing the PoA.

    Across the Middle East, North Africa and much of Asia almost no small arms commitments have been put into action. Some states in East Africa, East and Central Europe and the Americas had made progress, but there is still much to be done in order to save lives.

    The UN's Chief Puppet, Bill Clinton got many of our guns taken away for a decade...All part of the plan to slowly disarm Americans. Hillary in '08??? Start burying them now. :what:
     
  2. odysseus

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    Because they have no authority to mandate such stupidity. That is a good thing.
     
  3. whm1974

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    The UN actully has very little power for now. They have no means of enforcing any resilutions they pass.

    -Bill
     
  4. beerslurpy

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    UN Security Council Veto. That is all. Also, assuming a hillary presidency, which I'm not, it would still have to be ratified by a mostly pro-gun congress. Not gonna happen.

    <willy wonka>You win nothing! You lose! Good day sir!</willy wonka>

    Even if they somehow could get it ratified, the treaty would be forbidden by the constitution. Then again, so is much of Title 18 section 922-925.
     
  5. danurve

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    The "UN" is by far to the "US" as a Lamprey eel is to a Trout.
     
  6. Molon Labe

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    This will change when HRC becomes president.
     
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    Rebecca Peters and IANSA are a huge threat to our liberties, and she has her sights set on a socialist world, with her in a large position power, of course. The UN without the US is not quite a paper tiger, but close.
     
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    But I thought there was no difference between Democrats and Republicans.:rolleyes:
     
  9. ArmedBear

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    That is why I, as a card-carrying member of Libertarian Party, think it's STUPID to vote third-party in a big Federal election, as long as the Democrats remain totalitarian internationalists.

    The Republicans suck much of the time, but there is NOTHING the Democrats would do that would be better, and much that would be worse. Their bizarre love for the UN is a genuine threat to all we value as Americans who have some awareness of what remains of our unique freedom.

    We're all going to die someday. Probably before there's a Libertarian majority in DC. In the meantime, I'd just as soon hang onto what freedoms I can, when I can, instead of whistling a happy tune of pure libertarian ideology as my country turns totalitarian in every respect.

    Every vote is an important choice. Please try to choose wisely. I do sometimes vote Libertarian, but I think about it when I do.
     
  10. progunner1957

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    "Against ALL enemies"

    When "W" was reelected in '04, the losers in the election - Demosocialist gun grabbing freedom haters - bandied about the question, "Is it ethical to shoot [and presumably kill] Republicans?" I'm sure many will recall this.

    If the Demosocialists in "our" (ha, ha) own government are not kept in check as well as the Demosocialists at the UN and IANSA, some day those of us who took the oath "To protect and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, both foreign and domestic" may well find ourselves in the position of being forced to take action on that oath.

    Seeing as how we actually have the tools and ability to do the job and are ready, willing and able to do it - the UN, IANSA and Rebeca Peters proceed at their peril.

    Am I advocating assasinating socialist UN bureaucrats? Noooooooooooo- what I am advocating is that socialist UN bureaucrats cease and desist their global power grab while they still have the opportunity to do so.

    The UN and its bureaucrats can be tolerated - as long as they know their place in the scheme of things and stay in their place.

    When they think that they are going to take my guns and turn me into a slave that grovels before their jackboots - they are comitting a grave error in judgement.

    There are tens of millions of others in this nation that feel the same way.

    MOLON LABE.:D
     
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    No one, currently, could...or would enforce these powerless edicts in our nation.


    If that day comes. MOLON LABE!
     
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    +1. Excellent. Armed Bear, you just said what I had been trying to figure out myself. This is why I don't fully agree with the "vote third-party" members or with the "vote third-party" arguments that are put forth whenever one of those "third-party vs. mainstream" voting threads appear.
     
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    You want some, Kofi??

    Come get some, old man!!:D :D
     
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    LOL... That's classic.
     
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    The UN pushed all its chips on Brazil and lost big time. Doesn't mean it won't be back, just means it lost in Brazil as did Becky Peters.
     
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    Ammo first, baby. Ammo first.
     
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    I blame the UN on one of the biggest idealistic impracticals of all time - Woodrow Wilson!

    "If I want to punish one of my provinces, I appoint a philosopher for its governor." Friedrich II the Great
     
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    dont fire until you see the blue of their helmets
     
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    Boom, boom - out go the lights!!

    I own more .223 rounds than Kofi's addled, incontinent old cadaver has square inches of skin.:D :D
     
  21. RaetherEnt

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    Just an Idea...

    Anyone up for organizing a "million gun march" on the United Nations in NYC?
     
  22. Molon Labe

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    Not sure about you, but I have no qualms about firing on a guy wearing a blue helmet and speaking broken English...
     
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    Oops -- the frog just moved. Looks like he might jump out of the pot. We'd better not turn the heat up quite so fast.

    And hey -- you camels -- just stay in a holding pattern with one hump in the tent while we figure this Brazil thing out.
     
  24. The-Fly

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    Good quality Bushmaster or RRA - $800
    20 USGI mags from 44mag.com - $200
    Blackhills 68gr HP bluebox 600rnds - $180

    Being able to shoot 600 socialists & fascists - priceless

    There are some things you can't buy, for everything else theres the 2nd Amendment. Don't defend your home without it.
     
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    [JUST KIDDING mode on]

    Kofi, if you want my guns, you can't have 'em.

    But you can come get my bullets. I'll give 'em to you--one at a time!

    [JUST KIDDING mode off]

    After all, I don't want be construed as threatening the High Leader of the United World Government!

    :D


    [JUST KIDDING mode really off now!]
     
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