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Compact .40s - all metal

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by gbelleh, Feb 25, 2008.

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  1. gbelleh

    gbelleh Member

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    I'm looking for an all metal .40 pistol.

    What meets the following criteria? I don't want to leave anything out.

    .40 caliber
    Compact (small enough to reasonably carry)
    All metal (no polymer this time)
    No internal lock


    So far, I know of:
    Sig 229, 239
    Kahr K40
    CZ 75 compact .40
    Various .40 1911s
    S&W 4006/4046
    Hi Power .40
    Beretta 96
    Beretta/Stoeger Cougar

    Anything I'm missing? I'm leaning toward a Sig 239.
    Thanks.
     
  2. The Lone Haranguer

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    Smith & Wesson still has the 4013TSW in current production. (The 4006TSW, while not overly large, is not really a compact.) It does not appear to have the dreaded LOCK!!!!11;), but it is a little spendy. If you don't mind a used gun, get a plain, non-TSW 4013 or its variants (different numbers indicate different metals and finishes, as well as DA/SA or DAO action) and take the difference to the bank (or more ammo).
     
  3. Seven For Sure

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    Kahr also makes the MK40 which is a 3" barrel and the T40 which has a 4" barrel. They have 5 and 7 rd. mags respectively. There is a company that makes steel frames for large frame glock models also but I think they're over $300 and it's like buying a gun, you have to go through an FFL. I shot an all steel .40 once (EEA Witness) and it was a pleasure compared to my Glocks. They have saftey's though.

    Forgot to mention the S&W 646 revolver. No lock either. I have a couple and they are sweet.
     
  4. HisSoldier

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    Starfire, very compact, heavy but reliable.[​IMG]
     
  5. armoredman

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    EAA Witness 40 Compact.
    I like the CZ Compact 40, nice pistola.
     
  6. yhtomit

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    What armoredman said -- if I were to seek a small, all-metal .40, I think a Cz RAMI would be my first one to look at. They feel good in the hand (at least *my* hand), and have much in common with the Cz-75.

    timothy
     
  7. possum

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    go kahr the k-40 is an awesome handgun that matches your wants, you would be really happy with it. it is reliable, accurate, concealable and an all around great handgun.
     
  8. Rayden

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    Over at the CZ forum, they are saying that it is a hit and miss with the Rami chambered in .40. Some has serious issues while others are fine.
     
  9. LAK Supply

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    I love my SIG 229... accurate, reliable, and holds 15 with the MecGar mags.
     
  10. Pat-inCO

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    +1 Only "problem" is that with a good holster, you tend to forget you have it on. :D

    The 4006 is larger but is also quite nice.
     
  11. armoredman

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    The older RAMI 40s were unreliable, and because of that, not many people want to give them a try now. I believe CZ has fixed the problem.
    Still, with that cartridge, I would want something heavier. The Compact 40 would be the best choice for me.
     
  12. Treo

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    I have an older 2075 . We had some FTFs W/it but it seems to be a magazine problem more than anything. I can shoot it W/ fair to good accuracy but it tends to kick DWs butt. likely she will stick W/ the CZ-82 & the RAMI will become my BUG.


    BTW amoredman I still can't get on CZforums
     
  13. J Lambs

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    EMP is supposedly out with the .40. I love my 9mm.
     
  14. gbelleh

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    The EMP .40 is interesting. Does the EMP also have the ILS system in the main spring housing? If so, is it possible to swap it out with a standard part like on a full size Springfield 1911?
     
  15. JDGray

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    Sig 239 is lighter, but the CZ just melts into your hand:)

    treo, you shoot with Darrel Waltrip? Very cool:D
     
  16. Jackal

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    Kahr MK40. I have the PM40 and it is just awesome. Light, accurate, reliable and easily caried. Whats not to like?
     
  17. Lonestar49

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    Sig P229 40cal

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    No doubts..


    Ls
     
  18. kenjs1

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    consider a CZ 40 P ?
     
  19. armoredman

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    treo, please re-register, Yuko just bites.
     
  20. 12Bravo20

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    I have a Firestar and really like the pistol. I haven't and any problems with it and it is one of the most accurate pistols that I own. Too bad that Star went out of business.
    [​IMG]
     
  21. lechiffre

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    bersa thunder 40
     
  22. modifiedbrowning

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    I'm with lechiffre.
    Although, Bersa doesn't offer a .40 Ultracompact under their name it is available as a Firestorm.
    Firestorm Mini 40
     
  23. gbelleh

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    I really like Bersas, except for the internal lock I'm trying to avoid. (My Bersa Thunder .380 is pre-lock).

    I'll probably end up getting a CPO Sig 229 while I still can.
     
  24. kerank

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    Sig 239

    Sig 239 gets my vote in all metal. Very accurate, very reliable, more concealable than most.
     
  25. RyanM

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    I have an older Kahr MK40, going on 9 years old I think. It's a great gun. Very reliable.
     
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