Compact .40s - all metal

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I'm looking for an all metal .40 pistol.

What meets the following criteria? I don't want to leave anything out.

.40 caliber
Compact (small enough to reasonably carry)
All metal (no polymer this time)
No internal lock


So far, I know of:
Sig 229, 239
Kahr K40
CZ 75 compact .40
Various .40 1911s
S&W 4006/4046
Hi Power .40
Beretta 96
Beretta/Stoeger Cougar

Anything I'm missing? I'm leaning toward a Sig 239.
Thanks.
 
Smith & Wesson still has the 4013TSW in current production. (The 4006TSW, while not overly large, is not really a compact.) It does not appear to have the dreaded LOCK!!!!11;), but it is a little spendy. If you don't mind a used gun, get a plain, non-TSW 4013 or its variants (different numbers indicate different metals and finishes, as well as DA/SA or DAO action) and take the difference to the bank (or more ammo).
 
Kahr also makes the MK40 which is a 3" barrel and the T40 which has a 4" barrel. They have 5 and 7 rd. mags respectively. There is a company that makes steel frames for large frame glock models also but I think they're over $300 and it's like buying a gun, you have to go through an FFL. I shot an all steel .40 once (EEA Witness) and it was a pleasure compared to my Glocks. They have saftey's though.

Forgot to mention the S&W 646 revolver. No lock either. I have a couple and they are sweet.
 
go kahr the k-40 is an awesome handgun that matches your wants, you would be really happy with it. it is reliable, accurate, concealable and an all around great handgun.
 
What armoredman said -- if I were to seek a small, all-metal .40, I think a Cz RAMI would be my first one to look at. They feel good in the hand (at least *my* hand), and have much in common with the Cz-75.

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Over at the CZ forum, they are saying that it is a hit and miss with the Rami chambered in .40. Some has serious issues while others are fine.
 
possum said:
go kahr the k-40 is an awesome handgun that matches your wants
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+1 Only "problem" is that with a good holster, you tend to forget you have it on. :D

The 4006 is larger but is also quite nice.
 
The older RAMI 40s were unreliable, and because of that, not many people want to give them a try now. I believe CZ has fixed the problem.
Still, with that cartridge, I would want something heavier. The Compact 40 would be the best choice for me.
 
I have an older 2075 . We had some FTFs W/it but it seems to be a magazine problem more than anything. I can shoot it W/ fair to good accuracy but it tends to kick DWs butt. likely she will stick W/ the CZ-82 & the RAMI will become my BUG.


BTW amoredman I still can't get on CZforums
 
The EMP .40 is interesting. Does the EMP also have the ILS system in the main spring housing? If so, is it possible to swap it out with a standard part like on a full size Springfield 1911?
 
Sig 239 is lighter, but the CZ just melts into your hand:)

treo, you shoot with Darrel Waltrip? Very cool:D
 
I have a Firestar and really like the pistol. I haven't and any problems with it and it is one of the most accurate pistols that I own. Too bad that Star went out of business.
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I really like Bersas, except for the internal lock I'm trying to avoid. (My Bersa Thunder .380 is pre-lock).

I'll probably end up getting a CPO Sig 229 while I still can.
 
I have an older Kahr MK40, going on 9 years old I think. It's a great gun. Very reliable.
 
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