Compact Coyote rifle?

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Now granted, a 30/30 might be overkill for a 'yote, but its a good all around cartridge for just about anything and the platform can be had for far less than most semi-auto .223 setups. More than a few people will attest to the fact that a 30/30 is one of the best truck guns in existance... And now that I've said that somebody will scramble to debate the fact ;)

I know you want to maintain common calibers, but get something different just for fun. It's not as if 30/30 will dry up anytime soon and it allows you a bit more leeway for heavier game (yes, yes, we all know somebody out there has taken a zombie yeti with just a .223 and proper shot placement). Plus levers are just dang fun and that's the best reason of all.

If you have to have a .223, I vote for that keltec pictured above. Owned it, loved it.
 
Mini-14 vote all the way, I love mine and wouldn't trade it for an AR for the same money. After that maybe check out the KelTec SU-16, look cool but I know nothing about it.

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I'd like a .223 so I don't have to stockpile any more calibers than I already do,
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Carbine length (16 inch) AR no question about it. Otherwise if you are just looking to kill them a Mossberg 500 or Remingtion 870 will do the job. Are you hunting or just killing to protect livestock?


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Coyotes? I don't shoot anything else that eats meat. I live in the desert, and the coyotes keep down the rabbits, rats, and ground squirrels that would carry off the garden, otherwise. Having said that, I don't really care if you shoot 'em, but why would you need anything more than a .22? I'm not trying to argue; I'm just a bit confused at the firepower some of y'all seem to be using. It doesn't seem like it would be that hard to put one down, and rimfires would be a lot cheaper.
 
I have a 16" RRA LAR15 with the national match trigger and a 1 in 9 twist. That works works well on coyote, but I've recently purchased a Stag Arms Model 7 20" upper in 6.8 SPCII to mount on my RRA lower. That works even better for predator/hog/deer hunting out to around 250 yards. One lower and two uppers for about the price of one gun. The 5.56 RRA now acts as a personal/home defense rifle and within 1 minute it's all dressed up with a Leupold 3-9x40 AR scope and pushing the 6.8 SPCII down the barrel to ruin the day of any predator that gets in it's way. Worth checking out IMHO.
 
Thompson/Center Contender in .223 Rem. Handgun, carbine, or both (on the same frame). Because of the compressed action a Contender carbine with a 24” barrel will be shorter and lighter than a typical bolt-action with a 20” barrel. With a 20” barrel on the Contender carbine you have a REALLY compact firearm. Or put a 14” barrel on it and carry it as a scoped handgun in a bandoleer chest holster.

but why would you need anything more than a .22?
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Distance, mostly. “Out West” coyotes are often shot at ranges that exceed 200 yds. Sometimes they're almost in your lap, but most shots are long range. Conditions are frequently windy, so you need a bullet with some weight and high velocity, and you want every shot to be a DRT (these are reasons why many consider the .243 Win the ideal coyote cartridge). A .22 LR will kill them every time but it might take 5 minutes or 5 days if you don't place the bullet just right (due to wind, range, and moving target). They run off, are hard to find, and not very nice when found. A high-power cartrdige, becasue of hydrostatic shock in proportion to the animals small body mass, will generally kill a coyote right quick, even if the shot is not perfect.
 
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Small and roughed H&R in 223, last 7 years they use a 1-9 twist. Good for littler bullets.
savage /steven 200 or edge with a rifle basix trigger upgrade accurate at longer ranges. Cost is low and plain enough for can't hurt the look. darn site more accrate the a ruger mini. If you do not have excerience with a scope pistol ,forget it. Depending on range A 17hmr, svage .marlin or cz will do out to around 200 yards

Oh a M&P14 sport is around 600 dollar street price new. It will shoot sunmoa groups. But its a darn ole AR based rifle.
 
Some of you must have missed my post where I said I didn't want an AR.

I like the Kel Tec, but maybe I'll just use my Voere 243 for now. Not interested in getting into the fur business.

I don't think I could get close enough for my .22LR to take one down. In the western Utah desert I could easily have to take 200 yard shots.
 
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An H&R Handi might work, then. They come in several calibers that should be able to reach out and touch ol' Wile E. Light, fairly cheap (@ $260 new, but you might find one in a pawn shop for a lot less.) It's a single shot, but how many second shots are you going to get at a coyote anyway? Plus you can add barrels. I've got an old one that came in a rollup sock that you can stash behind a truck seat. It's got a .30-30 barrel and a 20 gauge. My only complaint is the new owners won't fit new barrels to the old company's recievers. (Mine's nickle coated, too.)
 
If you're not much of an AR or Semi guy in general and feel that a compact bolt gun is your answer I'd take a look at the Savage model 25, ( the barrels are a heavier profile and pretty long, but the actions are pretty compact ) CZ 527, ( my personal favorite, also they've got iron sights which a pretty cool bonus IMO ) and last but not least the Howa Ranchland compact, while this rifle has a thinner "sporter" barrel it's a pretty tidey and easy toting package, however I'm not too fond of the Hogue overmold stocks that these Howas feature from the factory, but there are several aftermarket stocks out there for the Howa 1500s/Weatherby Vanguards that are pretty nice. Also while they're semis the Saiga sporters are available in both .223 and 5.45 and are capable of pretty acceptable accuracy and very reasonable as far as the price. If I were strapped for cash and didn't own or want an AR but desired an automatic I'd give the Saigas a pretty hard look.
 
I don't shoot anything else that eats meat. I live in the desert, and the coyotes keep down the rabbits, rats, and ground squirrels that would carry off the garden.
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According to the state Division of Wildlife resources, they also keep down the population of mule deer fawns. That's why they're worth 50$ each now. Perhaps I'll look for a centerfire takedown rifle.

Why I need something more than a .22 rimfire. I want a clean kill. No suffering with a need to pump half a dozen rounds into a canine. I think I could take one cleanly under a hundred yards, but further?...
 
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Though I've gone over to an AR these days I owned a Mini 14 Ranch Rifle a few years back that was one heck of a handy gun. Barely bigger or heavier than a 10/22, I carried it in a 10/22 case and it had a Bushnell Dot scope mounted in 30mm factory Ruger rings. That little Ruger was the fastest rifle onto a target that I've ever fired and the dot scope worked very well out to 200 yards, the farthest I shot it. For rattling around on an ATV or packing by hand I think it's the handiest gun to be found. I sure wouldn't mispnd one of the new improved versions, and think a light weight dot or low power optic suits it perfectly.
 
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