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conceal carry. why should i get a permit?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by hartmen, Sep 30, 2010.

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  1. hartmen

    hartmen Member

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    what are some good reasons to have one? me and my buddy was talking at work about it because i dont have one yet and was planning on getting one. but since ive talked to him im not sure i really need one.

    conceal carry makes it legal for my to carry a concealed weapon. not just a gun. but i can carry without one as long as its visable? atleast according to him. im in kentucky if it matters.

    we discussed places i couldnt take the gun and places i could and such.

    is it worth all the trouble to take a whole day and test just for a permit?

    im really :banghead: on this one guys.
     
  2. jay gatz

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    I don't know all the specific rules for your state but the biggest reason in my eyes to get a concealed carry license is to avoid having to worry about the 1000 foot perimeter around school property that you cannot have a gun unless licensed.
     
  3. hartmen

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    huh....never thought about that. i live less than a block away from a school. lol i shoot in the backyard all the time ahhahah
     
  4. Carter

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    I'd suggest you not do that...
     
  5. wvshooter

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    Get your permit and don't look back. The advantages of concealed carry over open carry are too numerous to list.
     
  6. The Sarge

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    I see the School Zone issue has been raised already....
    Here in Texas a CHL does not have to go through the NICS background check to buy a gun. Check your state.
    I think the biggest advantage I have personally realized is one I never thought about....
    Stopped for speeding (guilty as I could be)...when I presented my drivers license and CHL....LEO smiled and said "have a nice day"......

    If you are going to conceal carry get your permit. You will enjoy the class (God forbid you may even learn something)....and carry without any thought of being in a situation without a permit.......being without a permit and being involved in a deadly defensive situation will put you in a bad light all the way around IMHO.
     
  7. Wheelgunner56

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    If you ever carry a firearm outside the home or a "weapon" as defined by your state laws, a permit is cheap insurance against getting arrested for running afoul of the law. Since there are so many laws that govern the carrying of weapons and firearms and often some are very vague , I say invest the time and money in the permit.
     
  8. oldbanjo

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    In some states having a fishing or hunting license will keep you from loosing your gun. A CWP protects me and my pistols, I also keep a hunting/fishing license to protect me and my long guns. In this state SC there is no rule on how you can carry a gun (pistol or long gun) to and from hunting or fishing. I have carried a pistol in a shoulder holster for 30yrs without a CWP. Also I carry a collapsible rod and reel in my saddle bags on my Motorcycle so I can carry my Mossberg 500 legally.
     
  9. Shytheed Dumas

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    Get it and carry your gun for the same reason you put a seatbelt on in the car. You put it on without thinking about it, because you never expect to need it. But when you need it...
     
  10. jonmerritt

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    Everyone has there own reasons for carry. You have to carry for you, not what others think. If you have doubts, don't. If you do, get training. If you already have experiance and training, carry with pride and humility. And pray to god you never have to take anothers life, it can be a traumatic experiance.
     
  11. blackops

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    It's better to have one and not need it, than need it and not have one.
     
  12. the foot

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    If you are considering ever carrying a weapon for self defense, go ahead and acquire your state's license.

    If you don't qualify for a weapons license, i.e. if you're a felon, you still need to be able to defend yourself in case of attack by criminals. In your case, figure out the best method for your situation and defend yourself.

    Bottom line, we all need to be able to defend ourselves today. It's a problem we face, there is always the chance of being attacked by criminals. Having a weapons license is the way I see we can keep on defending ourselves and stay "legal".
     
  13. rdb

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    I use the Second Amendment as my permit. So far so good.
     
  14. JoeSlomo

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    I'm with this guy... ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I did the CHL deal so I won't get thrown in jail for carrying a tool that can offset any disadvantages I may face should I ever need to defend my life, or those that I love.
     
  15. psyopspec

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    One of the perks to be gained is that in Denver county, you can get yourself added to a list of "flagged" persons (to include felons) if you successfully get a permit. Not a list I want to be on.
     
  16. NavyLCDR

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    Ahhh yes... such as the element of :what: SURPRISE! The element of surprise works something like this:

    If you are attacked by a criminal (because you happen to look like every other prospective unarmed target out there), you might be able to surprise the criminal during the attack by fishing your gun out from concealment and shooting them with it. If you have practiced and have good aim, you will have saved the taxpayers a LOT of money (another benefit to concealed carry) because you will have "put away" (permanently) the criminal right there on the street and saved the cost of a trial and incarceration.

    BTW, the advantages of open carry over concealed carry are also too numerous to list. If you are going to carry a gun, read the endless threads of OC v. CC on here and the other gun forums and decide which way is best for you. It is not nearly as important how you carry the gun (within the bounds of law, obviously) as it is that you actually carry it and are prepared to use it, should the need arise.

    Your friend was right, BTW, open carry is legal in KY without a permit, HOWEVER, the 1000' Federal school zone law will apply if you don't have the permit. If you choose to get the permit, you can still open carry if you want AND be exempt from the Federal school zone law (in the state the permit is issued from).

    http://www.opencarry.org/ky.html

    I would rather carry a gun for a lifetime and never need it, then to not carry it one day and need it that day.
     
  17. ZeroJunk

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    I don't carry very often, the area I live in is just not particularly hazardous IMO. Matter of fact, I don't carry any more now than I did before I got a permit.
    But, I seem to always be buying guns and it is convenient not to have to go through the background check. And, if I have a pistol in the truck going scouting, putting a stand up, or whatever, I don't have to worry about visble from three angles or any of that stuff. And, if I take a notion to stick one in my pocket I can worry only about some potential hazard and not the legal hassle without a permit.
     
  18. mcdonl

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    Bet that would hold up in court.... :)

    I would get the permit because it helps the cause to have the numbers, and if they someday change things perhaps current permit holders would be grandfather'd if laws changed some....

    And, it is just a good thing to have... transport guns without needing to unload/disable them, etc...
     
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  19. hartmen

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    right now im like a sponge. give me all the insight you can.
     
  20. Franco2shoot

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    I have labored over the decision for years... The one big stumbling block that keeps me out of the CC acquisition process is that it lets the government know my name. I'm not sure they do not already have this information even though the Virginia Insta-check is supposed to trash or dispose of the data within 90 days. A year or so ago down near Norfolk, a newspaper printed the names of folks that had CC licenses. Honestly, I'm not going anywhere that is such a tenuous area that I feel threatend enough to have to carry. Virginia's Open carry policy is good enough for me.


    KKKKFL
     
  21. Sam1911

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    Ahhh, for the want of a few bux for a permit and a little time spent on a class (if that's even required) we'd risk a felony conviction, time in jail, loss of livelihood/home/marriage, loss of our legal right to own firearms ever again -- simply because the wind blew our jacket open at an inopportune moment, or some item worked its way out of our pocket and the wrong person saw it.

    But, hey, maybe carrying a hidden, furtive object illegally -- praying to our diety that no one ever sees -- is a kind of activism! That's really sticking it to the man. :rolleyes:



    ...

    Yeah...don't do that, ok?
     
  22. hardluk1

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    All you need is to have any single person see you with an open carry in scream gun!! Then you might want to have a ccw for the big markets and travel'n and carry open when appropriate in the rural areas. Takeing the ccw class also will open your eyes to laws that you have not thought about. Also not all major markets allow open carry even if allowed in your state. NC is a open carry state but you do stand a better than average chance to go to jail with you start travel'n to many cities around the state and find a city ordinance against open carry. And you can't carry open in many other states if travel'n. CCW and you can carry in many.
     
  23. ForumSurfer

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    Kentucky laws for the op:

    http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=5&ved=0CC4QFjAE&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lrc.ky.gov%2Fkrs%2F237-00%2F110.PDF&rct=j&q=kentucky%20concealed%20weapon%20laws&ei=qNKlTIj1LIL_8Aas8ZD5AQ&usg=AFQjCNHXvujLc547kogDkDdi1FhxfJdJxQ&sig2=PS-6dYlMe7bEZUjkXjJMog&cad=rja

    OC vs CCW is a never-ending debate. I can and do carry legally both ways.

    Yes, I firmly believe the 2nd amendment is my ccw license. But the fact of the matter is, carrying concealed without a permit is a criminal offense. That would cause me to lose my job, prevent further gun purchases and countless other hardships all because I was too stubborn to obtain a silly little piece of paper. That piece of paper would look really appealing while I was spending a few hours in line at the unemployment office.

    Get the permit, take some classes. That is, if you read up on the debates and decide CCW is the way for you. CCW has several advantages over OC and OC has several advantages over CCW. Why not allow yourself to do both? I carry concealed everywhere I can these days. It is a rare occasion for me to OC, but I do OC from time to time.

    Edit:: I don't care too much that the goverment ends up with my info and fingerprints in a database for CCW. I've worked military contract jobs, bank jobs, government jobs and all sorts of places that have required me to get clearance checks out the wazoo...so my stuff is already out there. The ability to carry a concealed handgun (handgun only in NC) and heaven forbid actually be forced to use it in protection of myself and/or my family far outweighs the risk that the government would come after me in a gestapo fashion because my name is on some list.
     
  24. Carl N. Brown

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    Tennessee certification for permit includes classes by a state licensed firearms instructor. When I got my permit, it included a four-hour class on self defense law including a videotape by the state attorney general explaining how prosecutors look at self defense. If you think you know self defense law from TV, newspapers or internet chatter you are badly misinformed. It was a real eye-opener, and it differs state to state, year to year, often based on court cases that go back and forth. Lawful use of lethal force in self defense is a serious undertaking. Get good legal instruction on the laws and court decisions on self defense and use of force in your jurisdiction.

    By the way, Tennessee Handgun Carry Permit covers open or concealed carry. Any carry for defense outside the home without a permit is the crime of "going armed".
     
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  25. TheWarhammer

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    ... And I don't have a fire extinguisher because I don't live in a particularly fire proned house.
    ... And I don't wear a seat belt because I don't particularly plan on being in a accident.
    ... And I don't wear a motorcycle helmet because I don't particularly crash a lot.
    ... And I don't lock my doors on my house because...

    I can't count the times I've heard or read, "but we live in a nice area... we never thought that could happen here!" We carry to be prepared for an event that we hope will never happen. If there was some way to know when it was going to happen and only carry on that day, then we could just stay home and avoid the situation altogether. I carry every day, not because I live in fear, but because I live in reality.
     
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