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Concealed carry at yard sales

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Redlg155, Mar 11, 2013.

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  1. Redlg155

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    Legal concealed carry that it is. As of late the wife and I have been going to yard sales on a frequent basis. We actually have found some really good deals, but unfortunately no gun stuff.

    Anyway, other than asking you to leave the property if the owners of the sale find out, is there any other recourse other than to possibly get angry (property owner, not customer). The way I see things is that although it is private property, it is open to the general public by invitation. So unless there are specific signs stating no CCW...you are good to go.

    Anyone else carry at yard sales? And it is legal in your area? I haven't recieved seen any law against it in Florida.

    Note: post clarified somewhat...
     
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  2. hso

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    What's your question here?

    Are you asking if other people carry at yards sales, then you're going to get "Yes" answers.

    If you're asking is it legal to carry at a yard sale on someone's private property then the answer is going to depend upon the state laws on carry on private property. In FL that would be a simple question of being treated as a trespasser by the property owner if you failed to leave when requested.
     
  3. sota

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    i'd recommend NOT getting angry if asked to leave. that doesn't help The Cause (or your blood pressure) in the long run.

    treat it as you would any other locale or establishment... no sign doesn't preclude the owner/operator from requesting you depart because of your CCW status. it may be outside, but if it's their property it's their property. wouldn't you expect someone to request your wishes, especially regarding trespass, if you were on your front lawn?
     
  4. Redlg155

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    I should really proofread my posts better. I had meant the yard sale owner being upset that you carried on to their property. Not gunowner.

    There is absolutely nothing at a yard sale worth getting angry over, although I have seen some good arguments!
     
  5. Risky

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    Well, if you're carrying concealed I don't see how the owner could possibly get upset seeing as he should have no idea you have it. However, if he asks you to beat feet and the the hell off his lawn... whether it be because you have a gun or he just thinks you're just funny looking, you had better get lost or you risk facing trespassing charges. Carrying a firearm doesn't legally compound trespassing in anyway that I'm aware of.
     
  6. heeler

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    I carry concealed every where that it is legal to do so and inform no one that I am armed.
    In other words I will go right into a someones home or business without giving it a thought.
    So far no one has objected simply because what they dont know is not going to hurt them and I certainly am not voluntering the information.
    As they say in boxing....Protect yourself at all times.
     
  7. returningfire

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    If it is indeed concealed, how are they going to know in the first place?
    If they find out, then just like you would at your house, ask someone to leave if you don't approve of what they are doing.

    In NC you can carry unless the property has signs stating "no forearms, concealed or otherwise", but they can still ask you to leave, everyone has that right on their property.
     
  8. Sav .250

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    Seems to me your making a mountain out of a mole hill. I really don`t get your problem.
    If your not waving it around or boosting you`ve got a weapon , life goes on. No problem.
    Folks wear weapons all the time (concealed) and nobody is the wiser. If it bothers you ,leave it home. Problem solved.
     
  9. bikerdoc

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    Concealed means concealed.
     
  10. HoosierQ

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    If your gun is concealed, how would anybody know you're carrying. Did I miss something. :confused:

    If you're slinging an AR-15 and walk up on somebody's little yard sale of used baby clothes I can imagine an awkward moment. Concealed carry? Non-issue.

    Think it through.
     
  11. buck460XVR

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    One needs to know the laws of their state when it comes to CWC. If you know that, then asking about CWC while at garage sales will be unnecessary.
     
  12. Redlg155

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    No mountains. No Molehills and it doesn't bother me. Calm down folks.

    The point of this thread was wondering how many folks carry at yard sales. I did and still do.
     
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    Here we go, another thread where folks throw out the "concealed is concealed" argument, insisting that what a person doesn't know won't hurt him.

    Absent any law or request to the contrary, CCW is good to go. But if a property owner asks us to not carry a gun on his or her property, to carry concealed anyway is disrespectful and wrong. If you have to carry and a property owner asks for guns to be absent, don't go on that property.
     
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    How would they Know? This has become My new Pet Peeve with C&C Folk ,If people Know You ARE CARRYING A CONCEALED FIREARM HOW DID THEY FIND OUT? ITS COMMON SENSE you do not want anyone to know thats the purpose of C&C Concealment for Defensive Safety ..Definition of CONCEAL- to prevent disclosure or recognition of: to place out of sight
     
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    Well beatledog I would think that if a property owners has informed you they do not want you armed on their property and you do anyway then most likely you would be in violation of the law and where I live you would probably lose your carry license.
     
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    I normally reply: follow your state's laws regarding carry issues. In this case I will say, make certain your carry piece is very well concealed and don't worry about it..
    I may get negative responses to my next statement;

    ALWAYS make sure your carry piece is small enough and/or concealed enough so NOBODY knows you have it. I rarely bother checking for gun-free signs in town. Aside from the obvious places (courthouse, etc.) I don't worry much because I know my carry pistol is NEVER going to be seen by ANYBODY
     
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    Since the majority of your first post had to do with the legality and consequences of CWC at Garage sales, it just seemed to me, that was the direction you were going.....

     
  18. HoosierQ

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    ^^^This right here^^^
     
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    Perfectly legal, in Florida to carry anywhere not prohibited in 790.02(12); 790.115-schools; 985.711, 951.22, 944.47 -Jails/detention facilities; and possibly 394.9265 and 916.1085-mental health facilities. And the odd restriction prohibiting carry in the Savannas State Reserve - 258.157.
    Also cannot legally carry into any Federal building, Federal Court Facility, or any other location restricted by any regulation in the Code of Federal Regulations (Post Office property, VA, Army Corps of Engineer's projects, etc.)

    None of these laws speak to private property (as a separate category.) Therefore, it is perfectly legal (with a CWFL or reciprocal State permit) to carry concealed onto/into any private property regardless of the property owner's feelings on the matter. (Let the flames begin...)

    Now, of course the person in control of that property may demand you leave at any time, for almost any reason, and failure to do so could result in a trespassing charge. Also, note that trespass with a firearm is a felony in Florida.

    To answer the question in your subsequent post, I carry everywhere legal.

    ETA: 'No Guns' signs carry no legal weight, whatsoever in Florida regardless of where they are posted.
     
  20. Godsgunman

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    I carry everywhere I go. Most the time even my wife doesn't even know I have in on me unless she wants some attention and gets touchy feely ;). Wherever I go it goes and you will never know unless you have xray vision because I'm not declaring it to anyone. Especially at a yard sale if someone had a problem and was brazen enough to put up a sign I'm sure they wouldn't be selling any of their crap to to many people around here. I for one wouldn't give them any money.
     
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    I read this a LOT.. it's kinda like plumber butt.. it's SUPPOSE to be concealed but(t) often is not... There are just going to be times even a IWB carry may pop out, especially at a yard sale where stuff is set on the ground and you bend over to look at it.
     
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    Arkansas law states you must advise before entering any private home. You are good to go outside unless there are signs.
     
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    we use to do yard sales often and you get the regulars (Im now a regular shopper) but there was always this old man and woman that would stop by, He always wore a little derringer on his belt. Well our daughters high school softball team decided to hold a donation, yard sale at the high school one saturday. So the same guy ive seen at alot of yard sales shows up with the derringer on his hip. I made it a point to tell him that school property is a considered a gun free zone in arizona. I told him I could be wrong but he may look into the rules before open carrying a pistol on school property. He did thank me and tell me he wasnt even thinking of the gun when he saw the yard sale sign. jim
     
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    Been answered already. You're carrying concealed, the property owner should never know. If known, you politely comply. Be a good steward of concealed carry / gun ownership in general, and politely wish them a nice day on your way out. They may stew about it for a while, but if your last contact with the host is positive, you may begin to change their mind.

    At minimum, they'll likely be thinking about their encounter afterward, and leaving on a positive note may be the beginning of them loosening an anti-gun view.
     
  25. Creature

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    Why wouldnt I? Are we not supposed to carry at yard sales?
     
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