Concealed carry question when in rural areas with potentially dangerous wildlife

My last trip to Huntsville I saw some shady looking characters.
Yeah, don‘t judge a book by its cover, etc, but my illiterate gut wished for a gun, but it was a visit to a strange doctor’s office and Those People dont approve.
 
My knowledge of dealing with potentially dangerous wildlife is limited as I grew up in Chicago and never had to deal with it. We moved to a rural area of SE Wisconsin 4 years ago, but there's few if any venomous snakes, bears, etc. to speak of here. We go on a family vacation every year, and are renting a farmhouse for a week outside Huntsville, Alabama in June. We of course don't plan on putting ourselves in the position of having to deal with dangerous wildlife, but I'm looking for suggestions as far as what to carry given the range of wildlife in the area in addition to defense against 2 legged threats. I'll most likely carry a compact M&P 2.0 45. Is it a bad idea to load it with 2 rounds of CCI shot shells followed with 255 grain +P hardcast ammo? If not, what would you suggest?

The best thing for snakes is a stick, good boots, and be observant.

Snakes don't chase people. And unless it's both venomous AND in populated people areas, leave them alone.

CCI shells out of a rifled barrel, especially a rifled pistol barrel, leave a lot to be desired.

Stick with your standard self defense ammo.
 
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About the only thing I haven't seen here,(unless I missed it) is, IS IT LEGAL for you to bring your handgun to that state and carry it? That would be a real vacation bummer if you got an illegal handgun possession there...
He's talking about Alabama. If he can legally buy a handgun anywhere in the US, he can legally posses and carry it in Alabama. That's the way it is in most states.
 
Is it a bad idea to load it with 2 rounds of CCI shot shells followed with 255 grain +P hardcast ammo? If not, what would you suggest?
In my opinion, if a snake is big enough to be truly dangerous to an adult (like a big Eastern Diamondback, or even a full grown water moccasin), it’s big enough that the little shot shells from a pistol may not reliably incapacitate it, especially from a few feet away.
 
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In my opinion, if a snake is big enough to be truly dangerous to an adult (like a big Eastern Diamondback, or even a full grown water moccasin), it’s big enough that the little shot shells from a pistol may not reliably incapacitate it, especially from a few feet away.
If it's a few feet away, there's more than likely no good reason to shoot it.
 
Honestly, a bottle of permethrin is probably your best protection. ;)

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My record was over 100 chigger bites on a SWAT callout. Starting at my navel, to the tops of my feet. I thought I was going to die. Then, decided that wasn’t a bad alternative and basically said “Lord, this is as good a time as any…if you want me, I’m ready to go.”

Baths with chlorine. Benadryl. Everything. I still have a few scars.

I worked the hood. Un mowed fields and yards.

Finally, from the first warm day, when I got out of the shower, from mid thigh down, I hosed down with Off before I even put on my uniform.

I was in a pursuit. They crashed and ran into an overgrown field. Like, 6 ft.

I got out and started hosing down with Off. my LT pulled up. “Where did they go!” I pointed while hosing down. He looked at me. Looked at the field. Walked over and borrowed my can.

Got a good perimeter. Rounded them up in a few minutes.

You could see the welts forming. From their hairline down.

I thought “That is going to be more punishment than the judicial system can possibly dish out…”
 
I used to shoot with a Wildlife Officer and he was more afraid of the meth labs in the woods, than any animals. I came across decades old stills, I could see axe marks on big metal cylinders, barrel hoop bands, I wonder if they were prohibition or later. Tell you, you walk into a marijuana field, be afraid, be very afraid. And get the heck out of there before the real predators find you.
 
I thought “That is going to be more punishment than the judicial system can possibly dish out…”
I think that every time I watch one of those cop shows with pursuits that end up on foot, in the woods or swamp. I tell my wife, if they knew what I knew, they'd just let the cops cuff `em before they gained 10lbs in chiggers and ticks.
 
About the only thing I haven't seen here,(unless I missed it) is, IS IT LEGAL for you to bring your handgun to that state and carry it? That would be a real vacation bummer if you got an illegal handgun possession there...
here is the best quick reference, fyi:

 
Your current firearm with your normal carry ammo is all you need. I lived in Arizona for years and only had to kill a couple of rattlesnakes. I used an M&P40c with Federal Hydroshok ammo.

The chance of needing to use your firearm for defense against critters or people is incredibly low.
 
I know….I know, this is not an environmentally friendly solution…that I admit. But it does work. I understand the reluctance to do it.
The other way to kill mosquito larvae is to put detergent in the water. Instead of smothering them like the diesel oil does, it lowers the surface tension of the water and they drown. Less environmentally incorrect.
 
I used to shoot with a Wildlife Officer and he was more afraid of the meth labs in the woods, than any animals. I came across decades old stills, I could see axe marks on big metal cylinders, barrel hoop bands, I wonder if they were prohibition or later. Tell you, you walk into a marijuana field, be afraid, be very afraid. And get the heck out of there before the real predators find you.
They used to hang fishing line with fishing hooks at eye level to protect the pot fields secluded out in Wheeler WR. So I get where he was coming from.
 
I think that every time I watch one of those cop shows with pursuits that end up on foot, in the woods or swamp. I tell my wife, if they knew what I knew, they'd just let the cops cuff `em before they gained 10lbs in chiggers and ticks.

Visiting the old family cemetery in Kentucky during the summer family reunions means picking up an extra passenger or two in the trip through the fields to get to it.

Same for walking through the high grass/weed fields to some of the various properties.

I put a stop to that.

I buy permethrin concentrate (36.8%), mix it up a bit stronger than commercial permethrin spray, then all my clothing I take with me on the trip to Kentucky get's a goooooooood spraying down and drying in the sun. I believe I calculated 3/4 teaspoon in an 8 ounce bottle of water works out to be 0.5%, which is what your typical permethrin spray concentration is. At 36.8%, a quart lasts a LONG time.

And I mean ALL my clothing gets this treatment, too. Shirts, pants, socks, underwear, ball cap, shoes.

The stuff will last a few washings, too.

Since I started doing that several years go, picking up ticks has been a thing of the past.

Now, I don't do this unless I know I'm headed to Ticklandistan. So home, work, etc. are not areas I worry about. Which is funny, because a couple weeks ago at my brother's house, I found a tick on an ankle, which I'm theorizing came from my walking through some grassy sections at work on the way to the parking lot that day.
 
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Can you legally kill snakes? Are you going to shoot a snake that is within striking distance of your family or is any snake you see dead? I've found it easier to move away from a snake then draw and fire as most the time a snake is warning you to get away. If it's going to strike it will be over before you can do anything.
I don't know but sounds like city dudes are paranoid. A little?
 
I don't know but sounds like city dudes are paranoid. A little?
Not paranoid. Smart enough to know that when we're going to an unfamiliar place or situation to ask about things that may or may not be a threat. Growing up in Chicago I saw the opposite situation many times, people from small towns or rural areas who were not familiar with the city and wound up in bad situations because they either didn't ask questions or made poor assumptions.
 
Not paranoid. Smart enough to know that when we're going to an unfamiliar place or situation to ask about things that may or may not be a threat. Growing up in Chicago I saw the opposite situation many times, people from small towns or rural areas who were not familiar with the city and wound up in bad situations because they either didn't ask questions or made poor assumptions.
Excellent example
 
Right. I don't know the prevalence of moonshiners and pot farmers in the Huntsville latifundia, probably not many.
I have come across a pot field while dove hunting in Illinois before. At the edge of a sunflower field. I doubt it was a drug cartel, but I do know that there was some money out there. And this wasn't ditch weed.
 
Right. I don't know the prevalence of moonshiners and pot farmers in the Huntsville latifundia, probably not many.
When I was a younger whippersnapper growing up near Decatur, we had a fair share of 'shiners still working out of the hills. My friends and I found a few stills over the years as we hiked around north alabama, mostly Bankhead, some out at Mallard-Fox WMA. Pot growers used Wheeler NWR for small plots.
 
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