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Concealed Cary Badges???

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by huntinggamo, Sep 30, 2010.

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  1. huntinggamo

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    browsing through the internet i see cc badges, similar to police badges, anyone know the legality of these? i live in Colorado and would be interested to hear some opinions... ( dont some states issue badges for cc?)

    Mainly im wondering if it would be a good thing or bad thing to have, if i am CC and for some reason my sidearm is exposed and i have a badge next to it the general public might not panic as much, also if OC it would calm alot of by passers ( i dont oc but just for argument ). i could also see it helping ID you as a good guy to LEO's arriving on the scene while you are holding BG at gun point? most people just see a gold badge, very few ever get close enough or pay enough attention to realize it is not a LEO badge, could this also backfire and get you arrested for impersonation or some crap?

    If anyone here is LEO i would like to know that in your post and your thoughts on the subject....
     
  2. texas bulldog

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    Horrible. Just horrible. Stay far, far away. Use the search function for more posts than you care to read on this topic.
     
  3. Hk Dan

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    Bad thing. Listen to the nice man above me.
     
  4. jimmyraythomason

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    Good advice!
     
  5. CoRoMo

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    Oh my gosh, not this again. If ever a stupider idea there was.
     
  6. huntinggamo

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    i will search, nice to see a unified response.....
     
  7. Wispa

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    "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges! I don't have to show you any stinkin' badges!" :D
     
  8. JoeMal

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    What's the point of conceal carry if you wear a badge saying "I'm concealing a firearm"?
     
  9. KarenTOC

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    Only because they'd think you're a police officer.

    Never a good idea to impersonate a police officer, even accidentally.
     
  10. Tommygunn

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    +100000!

    These badges serve one purpose. To make $$$$ for the companies that sell them.
    They are utterly useless. And as KarenTOC stated, they have REALLY BAD unintended consequences.
     
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    Going to get someone killed....

    This is a product that is going to get someone killed:
    http://legallyarmed.com/resources/reflectorsystem.htm

    It's a reflective wallet for your CPL/CWP/CCW/CHL. Let me explain the problem with this...

    First, when a LEO comes on the scene where he/she knows that guns are involved, they typically want to see one thing right away: empty hands, in plain sight, not moving. Flashing a badge/badge holder is not conducive to the LEO seeing empty hands, in plain sight, not moving.

    Now, move that situation to night time. At night, night vision and the ability to preserve night vision are paramount. In a situation where a cop may be looking for an active shooter, flashing this reflective badge holder at them is going to destroy that night vision. In addition to that, it is drawing their attention away from where an active shooter may be hiding and focusing their attention on your stupid reflector. You've just put that LEO at a huge disadvantage.

    Finally, if there is an active shooter at night and they are looking for targets, guess what you've just done by holding up this reflector...
     
  12. franconialocal

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    Fancy badge or no badge.....if I don't know you, and you aren't in uniform or pulling up in a fully marked cruiser then I'm going to treat you the same as I would anyone else at/entering my scene.

    These badges are a waste of money and they hold NO legal "weight" in court as a show of authority or as backing up any kind of powers of arrest.

    If any officer judges who the good guys are by just a show of a CC badge then they need to find another line of work.
     
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    Where's my 1st amendment badge for for speaking my mind? Where's my 4th amendment badge for not allowing myself to be unjustly searched and detained? I see no purpose of carrying a badge to tell anyone I am carrying concealed or not. In CT you can carry concealed or not and I do. That's it.
     
  14. Jorg Nysgerrig

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    As I've stated before, the only person I knew with a CCW badge (and this was over 10 years ago at this point) told me he clipped it next to his gun in case his jacket ever blew open. I suspect that as he got out of his surplus Crown Vic, his jacket blew open all the time.

    I'm not going to lock this one yet, just in case someone has some dazzling new insight on this since the last time it came up. I suspect someone will be by to lock it shortly.
     
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    Bet there are some that have their Eighteenth Amendment badge when they leave the store with a six pack.....
     
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    A badge means nothing, either police or non-police, if it has no authority behind it. If a person wearing a uniform and a badge does not have a given authority and an I.D. to go with his stated persona, then he has a problem. If the badge says security guard, he needs a similar authorizing I.D. to go with his security badge. If his badge says "U.S. Taxpayer", so be it. As a former cop, I personally didn't care what the guys badge said. Even if he was another cop from another jurisdiction, he was limited to making arrests in another juridiction under the "citizen's arrest" part of our state law, the same as a non-police citizen. A cop has to assess, very quickly, how he is going to react to any situation, and the presence of badges adds a new dimension, but doesn't relieve the cop of any responsibility to safety and assessment. Some officers act with "arrest them all, sort it out later", etc. If I had encountered a guy with a "concealed carry" badge, it wouldn't have gotten me all worked up. If that person was not trying to pass himself off as a cop (testimony, actions, attempting to I.D. himself as cop or arresting ouside of a citizen's limited capacity, etc), then he is just carrying a badge, not pretending to be a cop. We have come to asssociate badges with cops, but firemen wear badges, too. Military MP's wear badges, but their juridiction is severely limited, and if not on duty, means nothing in the civilian world, etc. Postal inspectors at the nearby convenience store, etc, might have a badge on, but they are outside theri juridiction with no powers. Only the people assigned the task, and duly empowered, in their proper juridictions have the power to go with any badge. Any other time, the badge is just part of the costume/uniform. I've seen too many cops take the badge thing personally, as if they needed to put down anyone else with a badge to make themselves feel more important. Sorry if this hits too close to home for some, but as a retired cop, I get to take the cheap shot.:D
     
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    Well,I get this nifty little paper sticker put on my shirt on election day that says "I Voted".
     
  18. Bob M.

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    Okay......lock it up.:D
     
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    I've thought about getting one. I think it would be funny as a prop when I take a picture of a gun. :D I probably never will unless they go on sale for about $2.00.
     
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    My carry badge is the little card I was issued that says "El Paso County Sheriff's Office Concealed Handgun Permit" across the top...
     
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    This is a problem waiting to happen!! I'm staying away!
     
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    Why would it calm passer bys when they see a badge?

    So the reason you're considereing the CC badge is so people will assume you're a cop. That is incredibly cheesy.
     
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    Close.

    "How about, if the constitution or natural law doesn't grant it, then I don't need it."

    The whole point of THR is to help people feel more open and at ease with seeing firearms and interacting with firearm owners. That's a good purpose.

    I don't need to piggyback on some false authority of a police officer or the state to assert my natural rights.

    I'd much rather have the "because it's my natural right" conversation than the "uh, no I'm not a cop. I got the badge mail order." conversation with an interested stranger.
     
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    badges are for boyscouts.
     
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