Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by fxstchewy, Apr 20, 2015.
My normal attire consists of Khaki or dress pants, occasionally a nice pair of jeans and a button up collared shirt, long or short sleeve. The pistols all seem to conceal well as long as my shirts aren't too tight
Having said that, I have found that a good pancake type holster that sits a little higher on the waist with a solid belt and an un-tucked shirt works fine for most full size pistols.
For better concealment but slower access, belly band holsters work well for many full size semi-autos as well. I find that I have to wear an undershirt to prevent rubbing on my skin so summer isn't a great time for this IMO.
On those rare occasions that I wear a suit coat, the sky is the limit for a good quality shoulder rig.
Works for me in casual attire.
And dressed for Sunday:
No one noticed a thing.
It was kind of interesting, but I went back to my G19, then to a full-size, 20 round XDm 9mm, then a PF9 and now an XDs 3.3 .45.
After packing daily for over 25 years, I’ve come to the conclusion that people don’t look at other people. No one pays attention to bulges under your clothes. Unless you’re a supermodel or on fire, no one will give you a second look. Hell, they won’t give you a first look.
All it needs is a good belt, but suspenders don't hurt. A light jacket is enough to keep it concealed, but since MI is an open carry state, I don't really bother with deep concealment.
). An unbuttoned over shirt hides most everything.
Shoulder holsters are less comfortable, but it makes concealing a Beretta 92fs possible.
However my daily work attire requires a gun that doesn't require such measures. My daily carry is a single stack polymer 9mm. It's easier to keep out of sight, and my back thanks me for it.
If the world goes to hell in a handbasket, I'll carry that 92 in my teeth if I have to. Day to day, gimme the Nano.
Also, I like to use a sticky holster. It's non-obtrusive and I can adjust it for comfort as a loaded full size pistol can get a bit heavy. The whole rig is pretty secure IWB, cinched up by a big belt. Works for me!
My brother buys nicer holsters, and he tucks a full size Sig 1911 under any tshirt he's wearing. On the same note, I've tucked a 1911 in back, but I need an extra loose tshirt to pull of a 1911, at least with the holsters I have.
Basically, a good belt and pants, even if they're not made for carry, negates the weight of a gun. I could nearly forget I had the gun with me, and I've had to feel to see if I've got it when I've been sitting around playing Xbox for too long (I have the bad habit of taking it out and setting it beside me when doing so, so I always have to check to make sure I've got it before I move elsewhere in my home).
Tradecraft, concealment ...
There are tips and tricks you can pick up on if you have the time, $ & resources to learn how to conceal firearms.
I own a LE trade in Glock 21 gen 04 .45acp pistol. I considered buying a OWB holster for it but it would be a &@#% to carry around for extended periods, .
If I really needed or wanted to carry a larger pistol like a 92/96 size, a P229/P226 or M&P full size, I would go back to a well made horizontal shoulder rig. I liked my black Aker Comfort Flex, . The Galco Miami Classic II holster could conceal a big pistol. I prefer the wider shoulder straps to balance out the weight of the gun & spare magazines/handcuffs etc.
Many serious gunners & armed agents get natural or brown shoulder holsters to avoid the black dye from staining clothes or causing wear-tear.
Some CCW license holders or new gun owners buy synthetic or nylon holsters.
They aren't bad for occasional use or brief periods but leather breathes & provides a better fit after long periods.
I watched a "unscripted" LE series that ran on basic cable. The real police detectives from a large mid-south city all wore Glocks and HKs in brown or natural leather shoulder holsters.
On other occasions, I carry a 5" 1911 with a surefire X300 Ultra in a modified Raven Concealment holster. IWB Around 4 o'clock, since i use my pockets. Slightly less comfortable when standing, and sitting in most seats. Extremely uncomfortable when in one of my vehicles, due to the side bolsters of the seats (92 Accord, 92 integra, early 90s Mustang).
4566 in the Remora clip IWB, so far so good.
My favorite carry guns are 4" barrels and have magazine capacities of 10-15 depending on caliber. I have measured them all and they all roughly have the same weight, grip circumference, length, and function. They all carry the same way: IWB holster, halfway decent belt, covered by jeans and a T-shirt. It is hot enough in the south for this Yankee that I don't wear an undershirt or over shirt. On the rare occasion I carry a 1911 I use the same holster and setup. I suppose eventually I will get a smaller gun for around the house/bug/running niche.
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