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Congressman seeks to ban printed mags

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by jerkface11, Jan 16, 2013.

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  1. hak

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    from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_Distributed

    "Defense Distributed is an online, open-source, non-profit[2] organization that is attempting to design a firearm, called a Wiki Weapon,[5][6][7] that may be downloaded from the internet and "printed" with a 3-D Printer.[5] Among the organization's goals is to develop and freely publish design schematics[8] that would enable "a working plastic gun that could be downloaded and reproduced by anybody with a 3D printer."[9]
    After raising over US$20,000 via a crowd-funding appeal,[5][9] suffering the confiscation of its first 3D printer,[10] and partnering with private manufacturing firms,[11] the organization has begun live fire testing of printable firearm components.[12][13]"

    They've come pretty far for 6 months of work...

    "According to the Defense Distributed website, the nonprofit is organized and operated for charitable and literary purposes, specifically "to defend the civil liberty of popular access to arms as guaranteed by the United States Constitution and affirmed by the Supreme Court, through facilitating global access to, and the collaborative production of, information and knowledge related to the 3D printing of arms; and to publish and distribute... such information and knowledge in promotion of the public interest."[2][11] The websites's “Manifesto” page presents a string of quotations from American and British historical figures than can be broadly read to support the right to arms and freedom of speech.[5][18]
    The organization’s motivations have been described as "less about [a] gun... than about democratizing manufacturing technology,"[19] but to date, the only direct explication of Defense Distributed’s purpose has been in a speech given by Wilson at a Bitcoin conference in London.[20]
    In an interview with Slashdot, Cody Wilson discussed the organization’s Wiki Weapon project as a chance to "experiment with Enlightenment ideas… to literally materialize freedom.”[21]"

    3D printers may/can/should be like color printers today - found in every house or business in 5-10 years, these guys predict.
     
  2. Skribs

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    They can make it illegal. All it will do is prevent people who don't want to break the law from making them. It will do nothing to prevent criminals (who don't care about the law) from making them. Explain to me again how this stops crime without infringing on our rights?
     
  3. mgmorden

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    Kinda. Laws become even more ineffectual when the changes of getting caught breaking it go to next to nothing AND there is no clearly identified "victim" of the crime.

    Remember, it's also illegal to copy songs off the of the internet. How well do you think that's working?
     
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    I realize that, mgmorden. I know some people only commit victimless crimes ("I aint hurtin' noone") and personally I don't think there should BE victimless crimes, but that's starting to get outside the scope of THR (except to say that getting rid of those would free up prisons for violent offenders, and freeing the streets of violent offenders should allow a people-oriented government to free the gun shops for their shoppers...).

    My point is, if you take an average 30-year-old mother of two who's nerd husband just bought a 3D printer, and a gangster who just used some of his drug and/or protection money to buy a 3D printer, who is more likely to make illegal products with it? Thus, making the product illegal means that nerd husband who also happens to be a gun nut is under restrictions from his wife to not make any "illegal double secret assault clips", infringing on his rights. The gangster, on the other hand, is counting on his hands "dealing drugs, pimping, extortion, assault, attempted murder, armed robbery...who cares about illegal manufacturing?"
     
  5. sonick808

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    go to defcad.com and download the "mega pack".

    Even if you NEVER plan to print 3d, it ensures data continuity.

    label it , burn it, put it with your important docs, you become part of the continuum.
    :)
     
  6. sonick808

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    ok , playing with these models in Blender is really fun. I'm thinking a green plaid AR-15 with a wicker muzzle brake
     
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    I can see the strategy... WHEN the actual proposals gets shot down something like this could slip through, setting precedence that the device is illegal and the manufacturing methods are secondary....
     
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