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Consumer alert .22LR Remington Golden 36gr

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by intercooler, Jan 1, 2012.

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  1. intercooler

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    Could you give us a lot number so that we know what to be alert for?
     
  3. OH_Spartan

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    Can I assume from you ar15armory post that these were only shot through an autoloader? I would think a bolt-action rifle or revolver may be more dangerous because they have don't have an outlet for the misfire.
     
  4. intercooler

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    Yes shot from my S&W 22A Semi pistol.

    I looked the box over and the lot looks to be M150C1234
     
  5. 45_auto

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    Looks like the gun fired out of battery.
     
  6. tyeo098

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    Looks like a really hard firing pin strike.
     
  7. intercooler

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    Normal strike from what the other casings showed. In this case when it did fire it immediately blew out the case sending stuff backwards. This wasn't the first round that threw matter but the worst. CCI, Winchester, Aguila and Federal never gave me backwards debris.
     
  8. VA27

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    When you consider the BILLIONS of 22LR rounds manufactured every year, one little pop like that doesn't amount to much. You weren't hurt, you had your safety glasses on, so all is good. Looks like maybe a flaw in the metal of the case where the rim was formed.

    Now if it happened more than once, you might be on to something. But one round out of over 500, not so much. I wonder how many rounds were in that particular lot? 10,000, 100,000? You shoot enough, things like that are bound to happen.

    I had it happen once with Federal back in the early 70's. 10 or 15 years ago I had it happen with Remington Yellow Jacket in an NAA mini. It burned a pencil eraser-sized spot on my thumb. That'll get your attention!

    I bought a 22LR AMT BackUp for $60 once, after a CCI Stinger blew the extractor out. It cost me about $12 for a new extractor, spring and plunger.

    I'm sure that Remington would like to know, but you didn't hit the lottery. They may offer to replace the rounds, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
     
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    Wow, I have been shooting these for years - bought them by the case of 6250 a few years ago and still shooting them - no issues besides the occasional dud - which you get with every brand anyway
     
  10. FROGO207

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    The REM Golden have been rapidly declining in quality for the past few years. I now no longer buy them and will not bother again until I hear that they have solved those problems. I think a lot of other shooters are not either as the last time at WM all the other bulk .22 was gone and the REM Golden slot was overflowing. Thank goodness that the center fire ammo seems to remain reliable for you guys but I reload my own so am not really sure about that part.
     
  11. 351 WINCHESTER

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    As long as folks continue buying Remington bulk they will build it. Just say no.
     
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    I quit using the Remington bulk stuff a while back myself. There were so many duds it was just annoying.
     
  13. intercooler

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    It wasn't just one. I had 2 or 3 in the very first mag which raised my eyebrows knowing I have put thousands of others by different MFG's without any debris. First time I ever shot this because the kids bought them for me as a Christmas gift. I kind of wish they would have asked what ammo I like and Remington wouldn't have been on the list. It's enough in my short experience with it that I will ask Remington if I can exchange it for something else or get a refund. Never will put any through my pistol again :banghead:
     
  14. El Mariachi

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    And Cerberus loses even more customers.

    WFD.....
     
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    What about the CZ 452?

    I notice that my CZ 452 has two ports that appear to exist to redirect gas from a ruptured cartridge. The first is on the left of the chamber. The second is on top of the bolt. I would still hate having a cartridge rupture in it. Would it reduce the severity of the incident? Hopefully.
     
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    "And Cerberus loses even more customers."

    You're gonna be called a hater for saying that. There's nothing wrong with Remington's quality. :D
     
  17. Ky Larry

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    Remington doesn't see a problem. If their sales figures are acceptable, why should they care about quality? We, the shooting public, can fix this problem by letting their ammo sit on the shelf. Until Big Greens bottom line start suffering, they could care less. Until we,the shooting public, boycotts Rem products, we're just beating a dead horse.
     
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    There's only one product from Remington that I'll ever buy. And it's one of these....:D







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    It's been pretty common knowledge for years that Remington's 22lr ammo is the worst on the market.

    Avoid it. :scrutiny:
     
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    I quit using Remington rimfire ammo some time back due to the aggravation and frustation from having so many duds in every box.
     
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    Nope, its why I quit buying the Remington .22LR ammo years ago, I saw way too many of these! All the duds didn't help either!

    Not much of an issue in a gun like the M22A, Buckmark, or Neos which are very open on both sides -- as long as everyone is wearing good safety glasses! Good bit more spectacular in the Rugers which will force everything out one side and/or down the mag well. Not sure my P22 would survive it luckily never had it happen there (only because we don't shoot it 1/10th as much as the others).
     
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    I have several boxes of the above ammunition, and have shot through at least three complete boxes in the last year. In fact I went through a box of them just this last week.

    I have had so few "duds", I can't even remember any. No split cases or any other such problems, have come to my attention.

    It is very possible a bad batch of ammo was sent out, but I have not experienced any. Will check my lot numbers against yours just in case.

    I agree with the poster who said it looked like it fired out of battery, no idea how that would have happened, just what it looks like.

    Look, it is cheap ammunition. No excuse for it blowing out like that, but you do get what you pay for. But, I personally, have never had an issue with this brand of ammo, and I have shot a lot of it out of my Ruger 10-22.
     
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    That is clearly a round which fired when struck by the firing pin, therefore there's no way it can be a remington 22lr.
     
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    I pulled a random 100 rounds out of a box like yours I had sitting around for about a year and shot it through my Henry lever action .22. I got 11 duds out of 100. Pretty high failure rate if you ask me.
     
  25. Vern Humphrey

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    That has certainly been my experience -- I don't buy Remington any more.

    Like you, I reload -- but given my experience with their rimfire ammo, I simply wouldn't shell out the bucks for Remington centerfire on the off chance it wasn't infected with whatever ails their rimfire ammo.
     
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