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Converting a Lithgow .303 to 7.62X54r

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Catshooter, Nov 1, 2006.

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  1. Catshooter

    Catshooter Member

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    A while back someone on this board posted a link on JFPO of someone (named Bill Black, IIRC) who would re-chamber selected Enfields to 7.62X54r.

    I copied down his phone # I thought and now, when I can afford to do it I find it's the wrong #. And of course now the link's dead and no one at JFPO will respond to a plea for help.

    Can anyone connect me?


    Cat
     
  2. Eightball

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    Sounds interesting....I'll be watching this as well.

    Someone, anyone?
     
  3. Cosmoline

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    http://www.jpfo.org/smle.htm

    I'd advise against it. Note this comment:

    They're proceeding from the false premise that 54R operates at the same pressure level as the .303! I don't know enough about the SMLE action to say how much it can take, but I can tell you 54R commercial loads and handloads run at pressures substantially higher than that, up to 56,000 psi. This is why the 54R is a more potent round than the .303.
     
  4. eab

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    Are you sure it was 7.62*54R? I do remeber reading/hearing about a hear ago about rechambering enfields for 7.63*39.
     
  5. Limeyfellow

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    There been a number of people who converted .303 British to 7.62x54r rounds. Works fairly well from all I have read. You just got to be careful with the No1 smle action as its not as strong as the No4 action.
     
  6. mainmech48

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    While I suppose it can be done, other than to use surplus ammo that's more widely avaiable what would be the point?

    Seems like one would have to go through a bunch of ammo to amortize the cost of a conversion. It couldn't be a cheap one, what with the bolt work that'd have to be done for the weird convex rim on the Russkie round and all.

    Don't get me wrong; ol' Smellie would be my pick for the best all-around BA battle implement ever. But if you want the Enfield action, and also want to use inexpensive, widely available surplus ammo why not just go find a nice Ishapore 2A or 2A1? You could buy one and a slew of surplus 7.62x51 NATO for the price of a good #1 mk III or #4 and the conversion.
     
  7. jesse485

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    I agree with mainmech, get the 2a. AIM sells some nice ones with PERFECT bores for cheap, and I am pretty sure most of the 7.62x51 surplus is noncorrosive.
     
  8. Mornard

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    well, ya see. There's "can" and "would"... and then there's "should". You gain nothing,except a thing that not many else have. And unless you have loads of ammo, again, you're not gaining anything useful. These remarks are merely my opinion, but I'm stuck with 'em...
     
  9. Dave Markowitz

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    The converted rifles in the JPFO article were No.4s, not No.1 SMLEs. The No.4 is considerably stronger than the SMLE. I would not do this on a SMLE.
     
  10. Mannlicher

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    considering the cost of milsurp rifles, I hardly see where this conversion is worthwhile.
     
  11. Firehand

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    Oh, come on! Nice idea, cheap ammo, if you've got the money and rifle to do it, why not?
     
  12. Erinyes

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    Mostly because it would be cheaper to just get a Ishy 2A and non corrosive 7.62x51 surplus (bonus is an extra two round capacity).
     
  13. pbhome71

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    It will be even cheaper

    to get a mosin.

    -Pat
     
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