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Converting over to only Revolvers. Advice

Discussion in 'Handguns: Revolvers' started by Ghostrider_23, Sep 19, 2007.

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  1. Ghostrider_23

    Ghostrider_23 Member

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    I have been thinking a lot about converting over to completely using revolvers. I guess with the cost of ammo and in no small part at all of how I hate to chase brass, this decission have occupied my mind for some time.

    My questions are as follows:

    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??

    Any other thoughts or advise would be helpful.

    Thanks
     
  2. cslinger

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    First I am not an old curmudgen who clings to the past. (No disrespect to our old curmudgens mind you). I am relatively young at 33.

    That being said I really have gravitated pretty heavily towards revolvers. To answer your specific questions.

    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    Depends on the sun and moon and the day of the week. I like to shoot and I pretty much enjoy shooting anything with a bang switch. I do, get a certain satisfaction shooting a good revolver that I rarely get shooting semi autos.

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    See this thread for my answer.
    http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=165494


    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    Generally revolver tend to be more accurate but they are harder to shoot fast. The double action pull will teach you more about shooting well then many other exercises. The single action pull on a good revolver is typically the best trigger you will find this side of a rifle set trigger.

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    See number 1. Yes I have as much fun with my revolvers.

    Besides all that you just cannot beat the class and looks of a good revolver IMO, wood and steel all the way.

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  3. Silvanus

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    I always found it a lot easier to shoot a revolver than a semi-auto (i never understood why so many people say they can shoot semis more accurately). They are simply more accurate. And you can decide if you want to shoot DA or SA. A good revolver is usually extremely reliable. I also like the fact that they are so simple to operate. No safety or transition from DA to SA or anything. I guess that's the reason why I like my Glock too. With a revolver you can also either shoot very powerful magnum rounds or softer loaded "specials".

    I couldn't live without at least one semi-auto though. But the right revolver can do anything you want.
     
  4. Gary A

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    I have to admit, I started with revolvers, gravitated to semi-autos, returned to double-action revolvers, and now find myself slowly transitioning toward single-action revolvers. I guess I am a curmudgeon. I'll probably end up with black powder, then flintlocks, and eventually making my own bows and arrows. The more bells and whistles are added to firearms, the more I yearn for simplicity.
     
  5. jeepmor

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    PM me with a list of your semi-autos, I'd like to buy one, maybe two, maybe a few. Seriously, what do you have? Any 10mm's or 1911s.

    I'd love to get into revolvers and I don't have one yet. But 10mm is my current favorite cartridge. I would really like a 1076 auto or 610 S&W revolver.

    jeepmor
     
  6. Bearhands

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    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    Yes, I like the balance of my revolvers
    I don't like chasing brass, I dont like having to strip a gun to get it clean every time I shoot it.
    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    A. The look, a revolver just looks better to me.
    B. I'm never concerned about a jam or little broken piece
    C. In my state hunting with semi autos is against the law (thankfully)
    D. They last longer w/out a fail.
    E. The accuracy factor.
    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    Both seem pretty "easy" to shoot... I have much more luck hitting the bullseye with a revolver
    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    I have fun shooting period, but for the reasons above, I have more fun shooting my revolvers. Don't get me wrong, a semi can be fun as hell for plinking but if I am to depend on something for hunting or self defense, I want a wheel gun. And what CSlinger said, "you just cannot beat the class and looks of a good revolver IMO, wood and steel all the way."
     
  7. wheelgunslinger

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    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    Not really. I'm a gearhead and I like gizmos and dooflotchies. The wheelgun is painfully simple. With a pistol, there's always something to tweak.

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    It's painfully simple and much less subject to murphy's law. Unlike the pistol.

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    Yes. easier.

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    No. But, handguns are a defensive tool for me. I carry a revolver because it's accurate and reliable.
    Pistols are more fun for me to shoot.

    Any other thoughts or advise would be helpful.

    Go and shoot some to figure out what you like, all the way to single actions. You may be surprised at what you like.
     
  8. glockman19

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    I enjoy shooting both equally.
    Simplicity
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    YES. Just as much fun.

    In Revolvers I have:

    S&W 442/642 for carry/BUG, 686 4" for camping/hiking/HD/SD, 629 5" for hunting/HD. covering calibers; .38, .38+p, .357mag, .44Special, .44mag.
     
  9. Imaginos

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    I used to swear by the semi-auto as the best defense gun you could have until one bad day when something changed in the way my support hand was wrapping around my primary hand. I am a southpaw, and under recoil my support hand fingers were causing my trigger finger to activate the magazine release and dropping the magazine almost every shot.

    I tried several different support hand positions, but I could not find one that I could "flow" into smoothly as I presented the weapon, so I decided that I would switch to revolvers, and work out a fast reload technique. So far, so good.

    Now, the only reason I still own a semi-auto is for CHL qualification. In Texas, if you qualify with a revolver, that is the only action type you can carry. If you qualify with a semi-auto, you can carry anything. Go fig.
     
  10. Cosmoline

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    Yes. There's nothing jumping or cycling near your digits. It's the equivalent of driving a standard transmission car or a fixed gear bicycle. I also find the ergonomics of revolvers far better than almost all semis. There's no need to have space in the grip for cartridges, so it can be customized as needed to fit your hand.

    Fun to shoot. Natural draw and aiming. Fast in the hand.

    Both are easy to shoot. If you're wondering about shooting accurately, that depends. It's easier to get very small groups from a long barreled hunting revolver than almost any semi. But a snub nose requires some more practice. The semi is more of a one size fits all handgun.

    Much more fun. The semis are boring.
     
  11. 40SW

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    I don't have a preference one way or the other, my armory is well stocked with both. I realize the advantages and dissadvantage of both. In my much younger days I considered semi autos to be "sexier" due to being polluted by popular culture myths. Aesthetics is very much in the eye of the beholder. To me, I would never limit my personal protection and shooting enjoyment to either. I have grown to love both and will continue to purchase both.
     
  12. Steve C

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    I shoot both auto's and revolvers but as a hand loader its nice not to have to search through the weeds to find your brass or loose the ones that fly in front of the firing line. With a revolver if I shoot a box of ammo I come home with a box of empties. With a semi-auto there's usually a couple missing.

    Sometimes if shooting at the range with a lot of other people who don't re-load I'll come back with more brass than I started with. :)
     
  13. MrBorland

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    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    Yup. Though I like shooting semi autos just fine, I prefer revolvers. In fact, I don't even own a semi-auto.

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    Not having to chase brass and their simple manual of arms, their toughness, versatility and reliability were already mentioned.

    What I also like is their historical relevance, and I tend to be a bit of a traditionalist anyway (just picked up my first Blackhawk, and I'm already hooked!).

    I find their lines and appearance to be very pleasant and graceful.

    I like that they're not fussy about the ammo being fed.

    I like the Zen of shooting DA.

    I like that it takes a lot of practice to become a good shot while shooting in DA. Becoming a reasonably good shot with a DA revolver is something I can be proud of.

    I like that I can practice my DA trigger pull at home by dry firing.

    I like that I have the confidence to know I can just pick up any semi-auto and produce reasonable groups (and I've proved it to myself many times). I don't think I'd be able to do that if the platforms were reversed.

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    You mean as far as accuracy? In SA mode, sure, but even here I also think it's somewhat barrel-length dependent. I do think it generally takes more practice to become proficient shooting a DA revolver in DA, though. See #2 above.

    Revolvers can shoot some pretty stout loads, so one may experience recoil that you'll never see in a semi-auto if you're shooting one of these.

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    I don't own a semi-auto, so I guess that answers that. Seriously, I'll rent a semi-auto when I feel like shooting one, but I get very little "feel" back from a semi-auto. It feels pretty sterile to me.
     
  14. mavracer

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    don't do it , lots of both are better,when youir tired of picking up brass grab the wheel.
     
  15. FLA2760

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    I started shooting in 1982 on a Smith model 10 that I still own. I have several revolvers but I CCW semi auto's currently. I have always liked the reliability factor of a wheel gun. I often carry a J frame as a BUG. When things get very up close and personal a revolver is hard to beat. Picture rolling around with a BG and a contact shot. A semi auto can be knocked out of battery and will be turned into a one shot. The J frames particularly the airweights require frequent practice. A good set of grips helps here! I shoot semi autos and revolvers well enough well to defend myself. However; when I first started shooting the semi autos I had some problems with compact light semi's chambered for larger caliber's.I had some FTFs due to limp wristing. This is not an issue with a revolver. I like having the option of a wheel gun but I will stick to semi autos and their larger capacity as primary CCW. However, I have more fun shooting my wheelguns as it takes me back to the days I started shooting.
     
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  16. Hawk

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    I'm relatively new to revolvers, so these will be the observations of a visitor to the revolver forums.

    Triggers - I'm not sure it's reasonable to invoke single action triggers in the context of double action revolvers. Like many noobs, I read what I can when I'm getting into something new. In my case, I stumbled across Grant Cunningham early on. I gather the guy has some degree of respect in the universe of revolvers and he advocates DAO conversions in the case of defensive firearms.

    Double action revolver triggers will always suck if one is accustomed to tuned 1911-ish SAO triggers. The degree of suckage may vary. I gather Pythons have low suckage but the best of my two will never be confused with a Dawson-tuned STI.

    Reliability - as pointed out in the linked thread, semis may gag more but a malf in a semi can usually be cleared quickly whereas a similar occurance in a revolver is often a show-stopper. My semis have been more reliable than my few wheel guns but nearly all the revolvers were bought used while nearly none of the semis were pre-owned - that's bound to skew my personal numbers but, as it is, the revolver has no reliability advantage for me. The semis I've graduated to "carry status" have each run 100%. Anything less is relegated to range duty.

    Chasing brass - clean win to the revolvers. In fact, I only reload revolver rounds. OTOH, I only need to reload revolver rounds. Even premium .40S&W rounds are considerably less than what the cheapest .41 mag goes for. I wouldn't save much reloading rounds for my semis but I save enough reloading for revolvers to justify the reloading gear. These equations might change should I shoot more 38 special but that's unlikely.

    Aesthetics - I give this to revolvers but my personal taste in semis runs to "plain", bordering on visually offensive. They run but I seldom post pics - for all the best reasons. Pythons, 686s, Anacondas, 57s are just easy on the eyes. Single actions that Turnbull has gotten his mitts on can be especially nice.

    Cost - revolvers again. I have two Pythons that together cost a bit less than my STI. Granted, they are the 6", blued pedestrian variety but really, really nice revolvers can be had for less than high-end semis. In order to match cost with a mid-upper Nighthawk, a revolver fan would have to invoke a Korth or full custom widgit of some type.

    I rather like the single action triggers on my revolvers but I would suggest the following experiment: wait till this thread scrolls off the page than start one proclaiming that you'll be shooting all your DAs in single action. Ever hear of a "gun snob"?. I'm beginning to think there's such a thing as "double action snobs" but I'm not certain - such a thread should flush them out if they exist. If only DA "counts" I'd propose that comparisons between revolver and semi single action triggers be abandoned. There's scant point in having a 3 pound crisp trigger if you can't use it when you need it.

    Revolvers and semis are different enough I really couldn't see abandoning one entirely for the other. To each their own, though.
     
  17. PO2Hammer

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    1. Shooting revolvers is more satisfying, shooting autos is more fun.

    2. Power, accuracy, nostalgia.

    3. No, I find semi-autos easier to master.

    4. I get more satisfaction from developing a load and shooting them accurately from a revolver or single shot.

    You really should consider keeping one auto. I'm down to three, and I'm considering trading one in on a GP-100 to go along with my Redhawk. I have single shots and lever actions in .357 and .44 Rem Mag and want revolvers to match.

    I think I would keep my H&K USP .45 no matter what. I really enjoy loading for that pistol, and I'm willing to chase .45acp brass.
     
  18. jameslovesjammie

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    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    -I enjoy shooting both, but I don't really like picking up brass when I'm done.

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    -I like revolvers for a number of reasons. One is that I like shooting a longer barrel and prefer weight forward. It is much easier to find a 6, 7, or 8 inch barrel in a revolver than an auto! I also like the look and feel of a revolver. They hold differently in the hand than an auto. They just feel more right to me...like they're supposed to be there. I can get custom grips also to fit my big hands. I can't shoot a smaller frame auto at all...can't get 2 hands around them.

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    -I would say easier. Put the rounds in, close the cylinder and pull the trigger. No cocking, no missfires, no jams. Less to worry about.

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    -I love shooting semi auto .22's. I will always have one. But when you hit a bowling pin with a .22, it just kinda tips over. When you nail one with a full power .357 and it flies off the stand...there's just a different smile that comes to your face!
     
  19. mballai

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    I don't seem to favor one or the other anymore. They both seem to have their time and place. If all I owned were revolvers, that might be one thing, but to purposely go that route seems rather limiting. Both types have their pleasures and serious purposes.

    The one thing I enjoy about revolvers is the deliberate DA trigger and watching that cylinder turn. Very satisfying in any caliber from 22 LR to 44 Magnum.
     
  20. MrBorland

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    Double action snob?! That's me!! LOL :p I don't think it's really snobberishness, though.

    I like SA fine and when I want to shoot SA, I pick up my Blackhawk. But I shoot my DAs in DA exclusively, feel there's good practical reason to do so. Take Cunningham, for example, whose reasoning was fairly sound: Many people shoot DA revolvers by cocking the hammer and shooting in SA. If so, when the gun may have to be drawn defensively, not only are they not proficient with a DA trigger, but the habit of cocking the hammer may be so ingrained that in the heat of the moment, the hammer is indeed cocked. Unless you absolutely have to fire at that moment, this is an exceedingly dangerous situation, and it's therefore best to have the gun rendered DAO. It also forces the user to practice shooting DA, which is a technique worth becoming proficient at and one which they'll need in a defensive situation.
     
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    If you're dead set on dumping all the semi-autos go for it, but I would advise against. Both have their charm and their uses...

    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    No. I like both equally. My pistols are easy to break down, so I find revolvers more of a pain to clean. Chasing brass isn't fun, though, either. I'd say those two factors balance each other out...

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    Reliability, simplicity, beauty, sliding the rounds in one at a time. I've never failed to get a smile or a 'whoa' from somebody shooting my 357 for the first time.

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    Yes. I think they're both easy, but I like the 'slower pace' of revolvers, you can't just blow off 17 rounds in 2 seconds.

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    Yup. I love them both.
     
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    I applaud your intellectual courage in "coming out of the DA snob closet" as it were.

    Actually, I agree with Cunningham's (and your) assessment of the issue. I simply believe that if defensive revolvers must be shot double action, we should get past comparisons with SAO semis - the revolver trigger, by comparison, will suck out loud. It will stink on ice.

    This is of small import if you shoot DAO well. I don't. I have trigger related OCD and carry an STI with a 4 pound trigger so crisp it can make a grown man weep. I practice DA but it's relatively recent and I've been SAO dependent for a long time. Even with 1K each of Starline .41, .44 and .357 and reloading stuffs, I may never get there. We trudge on regardless.

    But I sometimes see allusions to the sweet single action trigger on DA revolvers - can we agree it's irrelevant and unusable in a defensive firearm?
     
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    I absolutely agree. Truth be told, the factory SA triggers on my Smiths are far and away better than my stock SA Blackhawk, and it seems ironic and a pity that such a nice SA trigger goes unused. I have a 4" 686 I'll keep DA/SA for its versatility, but I also have a 3" K frame that I'll have rendered DAO (sigh) when I get around to having an action job done on it.
     
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    1. Do you enjoy shooting revolvers better than semi-auto's?
    by far

    2. What is the appeal of the revolver?
    power that is difficult to find in a semi auto not to mention the reliability

    3. Is it as easy to shoot a revolver as it is to shoot a semi-auto?
    yes (unless you're using s.a only)

    4. Do you have as much fun with your revolvers as you do with a semi-auto??
    I don't own any but the times I have shot them with friends I still found my revolvers more enjoyable.

    my opinion is a bit buyist, when I was approaching my 21st birthday I had been planning to buy a 1911 like one my friend at the time owned, a couple months shy of my purchase how ever he got in a confrontation with a car jacker and was killed when his gun failed to feed, so that damaged my view of the semi autos.
     
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    It doesn't have to be either/or. Keep what you have. Enjoy them all. Once you start selling things off that you at one point liked, you'll find yourself regretting it and replacing them later in life. Tastes sometimes evolve, other times they're just temporary.


    I prefer shooting a 1911. I just can't manage to make them 100% with my arthrits right now. So I carry revolvers for the time being. Maybe it'll clear up, maybe it won't. But I'm not getting rid of anything over it.
     
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