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Convince me not to buy a Hi-Point 995 TS.

Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by Hammerhead6814, Nov 11, 2009.

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  1. Hammerhead6814

    Hammerhead6814 Member

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    I keep seeing those things for around $250. I got a card from one guy at this past weekends RKShow who was offering them for just $220!

    At that price it's hard to not want to buy one. I really need the money to work on my idea for a re-work of an AK bullpup's trigger, but part of me just wants to throw that on the back-burner and get a Hi-Point. Boy that felt weird to say out loud.

    The only reason I can see NOT to get one is that it's a rifle without a purpose. There isn't a nitch it fills save to blast away at the range. Is there any other reason NOT to own one?
     
  2. TimM

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    They are ugly ugly ugly. There, that is 3 reasons. ;)
     
  3. OkieOFT

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    I can't give you any reasons not to buy one...But I can supply a few TO buy one!

    1. New stock looks great!
    2. Shoots like a wet dream. Mine has digested 1000 rounds of pretty much every kind of 9mm I can find, JHP's, FMJ's...It eats everything. I had my first jam yesterday, and it was my fault. I'd very easily trust my life to this little rifle, and I do.
    3. Plenty of aftermarket toys if you are into that kind of thing
    4. Great for varmint hunting, or to keep in your truck. It certainly has more used than just range shooting.
    5. Lifetime warranty, and if the factory releases an update to a part they will send it to you or you can ship it back and they will install it for free. The only thing i've seen them charge for is the new stock, which to retrofit a Classic model is $40. If you have to send it in for service they almost always include a free magazine.
    6. Dirt Cheap! Any brand new rifle under $300 that is as fun to shoot as the Hi Point is worth every penny. I'd own one of every kind if my wife would let me!
     
  4. KAK

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    Its a hi-point... just dont buy it. :uhoh:
     
  5. rondog

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    Oh come on, if you don't actually own a High-Point, or have never actually owned one, then **** and stop bashing them. Don't spew hate against them if you don't have anything to back it up with other than heresay. I own two HP carbines, and they're an absolute blast to plink with! Very reliable and deadly accurate. Who cares if they're ugly, they work.
     
  6. KAK

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    Try the Kel-Tec
     
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    as a range toy, as well as for truck-gun or selfdefense i think
    this is a cheap, but formidable weapon.

    Can´t afford a Beretta C4 ... or the H&K UMP Carbine?
    Get the HP.
     
  8. rondog

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    I'm sure those are dandies. But are they in the same price range as the HP? That's what this thread and the original question is about, the new HP carbines. FWIW, I like the old style HP carbines better.
     
  9. OkieOFT

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    Have you ever owned one, let alone shot one? If not, then you have no right to say a single negative thing about Hi Point. My 995 Classic is one of the best things I have bought in years. The Kel-Tec is far uglier than any Hi Point will ever be. I don't understand how anyone can say the Kel-Tec is a better looking gun than the 995.

    I can't honestly find a single problem with mine...But I guess if gun snobs want to piss their money into the wind just for a brand name, thats your own problem, not mine. I'll just enjoy having a fatter bank accout and a gun that is just as accurate, reliable and useful as one costing hundreds more.
     
  10. Handgunner

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    Why?

    They are cheap and fun. :D
     
  11. frankiestoys

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    I just purchased this one about a month ago. I havent fired it yet. For a long time i was unsure if i wanted one. Then the new TS model came out . I did alot of internet
    searching and the only bad stuff i heard was about the stock.
    Well i like the way this one looks so i bought it, i hope im not dissapointed at the range
    but again from the reports i think it will be fine.
     

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    Hae the Kel Tec and the classic 995; BOTH are good for what they are... carbine psitol caliber utility tools.

    The 995 is great, ugly, accurate, reliable, I would get another one!........ most people seem to want more mag capacity. The factory mags are hard to load because of the weird feed lips.

    The Kel Tec can fold and fit in a brief case. The stock is not as comfortable a the 995!. The Kel Tec allows you to have a 17-33 round Glock carbine.

    SO GET BOTH :cool:
     
  13. foghornl

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    Don't own any Hi-Points, but have shot most if not all of their offerings at some time over the years.

    Pig-Butt-Stuck-In-A-Mud-Fence ugly?? Oh, yeah!

    Goes Bang! everytime, or Hi-Point fixes it free. Puts the lead where you aim. For sub-$300 carbines and sub-$200 handguns, what else can you ask?
     
  14. MJR007

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    Saiga is just a little more
     
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    The only reasons to not buy one is:

    1. They're step-child ugly
    2. Other people say don't buy it without giving any reason other than its ugly
    3. Its pistol caliber

    That said, the ugliness will grow on you plus you can grin when people give you odd looks at the range when you pull it out of the case knowing it'll probably shoot just as good as any other semi up to 50 yards.

    Its hard to buy one if there are numerous people saying they're terrible but as I said, very, very few people have anything to back that claim up. Its a $250, pistol caliber semi. To get that price, something has to be cut and in the case of the HP, its the looks.

    As far as being a pistol caliber, next to .22lr and some east bloc surplus, its about the cheapest thing you can shoot.
     
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    saiga is just a little more is the best argument.

    but they are great little guns. I had a classic 995, and I was going to get a TS model but went with a saiga instead.
     
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    Or you can trade a bunch of ammo for one in .40s&w like I did!! YEAH!

    Don't cost nothin', who cares what it looks like? Just get the 40...
     
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    Will these shoot cast lead bullets?

    Q
     
  19. KAK

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    I dont waste my money on crap when I can save it for something Ill like better. That goes for everything not just guns, but especially fishing equipment.
     
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    I don't think it's ugly. It's certainly much better looking than the previous similar hi point offering that looked like something out of Star Wars.
     
  21. OkieOFT

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    I like my cheap little Hi Point better than some $2000 AR's i've shot. The 995 is worth every penny you pay for it, and in my opinion, much more. Just because someone drops a huge wad of cash on something does not make it more enjoyable.
     
  22. t165

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    I owned a 995 Hi-Point. I have nothing "Bad" to say about the firearm. It functioned fine. I did trade it off and purchased a used Kel-Tec, Glock handled, Sub-9. One of the original Kel-Tecs with the aluminum reciever instead of the plastic one. The kel-Tec has been a great firearm and I use it as my home defense weapon...I like that it folds. If the Hi-Point 995 had been made with Beretta, S&W, or Glock hi-cap compatible grips then I would have kept it. If Hi-Point would just modify the grip to accommodate other firearm manufacturers hi-cap magazines then I would buy stock in the company. This would make the Hi-Point 995 much more popular in my humble opinion.
     
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    I just had another thought. Can you imagine if Hi-Point would modify the 995 to fire the .357 and .44 magnum cartridges? And the 45LC cartridge. Make it with a detachable carry handle so one could scope it. That would be a dandy affordable woods carbine for hunting deer sized game on down. Here in Indiana the legislature passed hunting laws which enable us to use pistol cartridges on deer. New 357 magnum, 44 magnum, 45LC/454 Casull carbines are very hard to come by. They also will run you $500.00 plus. The 995 would be cheaper and with the flat rail it should be easy to scope. I would definately buy one. It would fill a niche no other rifle can currently do. I'm not going to buy a AR 458 Socom just to hunt deer with in Indiana...even though I know some who have. I think Hi-Point would make a fortune. The 995 should easily be able to handle the pressure of both the 357 and 44 magnum handgun cartridges. More and more individuals are hunting with EBRs and the 995 would suddenly be a bad little mofo in the 44 magnum.
     
  24. Bad Penny 03

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    Wow, for a minute there I thought you said "Hi-Point."

    Must have been a bad dream.
     
  25. XD9GUY

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    After it's all said and done, the only thing really bad about them is the looks. Like something out of "Planet of the Apes". The new stocks however, have a lot better look about them. A friend of my son in law had one with the new stock. He said it shot great and was fun to shoot at the range and used it for home defense. If you get one I wouldn't pay more than $200 - $250 max. I saw 3 or 4 at the last gun show for $200 and I have heard of several being bought for $175 or so. I recommend doing some negotiating if you buy one. I bet you can find one at a gun show or a flea market cheap.
     
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