Convince me to rejoin the NRA....

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DualBerettas

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I am and have been a member with them and GOA for awhile but only still with GOA as I did not renew NRA last year.

After learning of the MG ban, 1934 NFA, and the '68 gun control acts, and their 'enforce existing laws'....(w/o questioning if all existing laws are good...?) and not standing up for class 3 like Larry Pratt does...

why?

Thanks,
DB
 
I dont agree with a lot of their politics but I believe they do more good for 2A than harm.

I am reluctantly renewing my membership again too. It is always reluctantly unfortunately.

Im a member of Georgia Carry as well and I think they do more for firearms rights than the NRA. They are only a state organization though and a national organization really needs to exist and there are not very many lobbying groups as powerful as the NRA.
 
If all you care about is class three stuff then don't. If you like to carry, target shoot, hunt, or collect guns then you have more than enough reason to support them.
 
If you value your second amendment rights and wish to fight for them,rejoin. If not go on your way. Your freedoms,your decision.
 
"I stand for..." is not necessarily, or even usually, the same as "I accomplish ..."

Join all the pro-gun groups you can.

But understand some things:

1) What the NRA was in 1934, what it was in 1968, and what it is now are very different things, both in terms of capacity and focus.

2) FOPA '86 was NOT, in ALMOST any way, a mistake. Many of the firearms freedoms we take for granted today were set up or re-established by that law. No-one, not the NRA, not the conservative politicians, not the bill's sponsors, not the president, thought the Hughes Amendment was going to be any kind of a major issue. The vast majority of gun owners (those groups represented) weren't exactly on fire over Title II weapons (didn't seem to care), and it was widely assumed that Hughes would be struck down immediately.

3) The focus of efforts on accomplishments that can be made today, and the bypassing of objectives that cannot be achieved today, does not indicate that those other objectives are not important and will not be fought for tomorrow -- or when the time is favorable.

4) If you want to support change and visible, positive movement on gun rights, give support to the NRA. If you want to give support to outlying fringe groups who stand for more "extreme" viewpoints (extreme, for the moment anyway), support JFPO, GOA, etc. They do some good things. They do NOTHING like what the NRA accomplishes. Not similarly, not kind of, not in the same league. They don't have the voice, and they don't have the access to the deal-making back end of Washington.

5) NRA is so much more than just NRA-ILA (not actually the same thing) that every gun owner benefits from NRA membership whether they support NRA-ILA or not.
 
Name one anti gun bill that has been affected by the actions of the GOA...there aren't any. The NRA continues to be the driving force in retaining our rights. No they aren't perfect but I bet no one here is either.
 
I understand and that's why I'm torn. I know they do a lot...but GOA does do mailing campaigns and they also defend machine guns and permitless concealed carry on national TV...

DB
 
"I stand for..." is not necessarily, or even usually, the same as "I accomplish ..."
Exactly. I love the GOA's no compromise stance (and the JPFO's), and I support them as well. But the fact is, like it or not, the NRA is our biggest voice by far in Washington. That's the only people the feds will listen to (and fear).

Lets use an analogy. You are mad about the new emissions requirements on cars. Do you join NADA (national auto dealers assiciation, who regularly have meetings with congress and have a huge amount of pull), or the high-performance cars association who will accept no compromise but have trouble even getting their local senator on the phone.

The NRA isn't full of fudds anymore. They are packing EBRs. They may not take on the Hughes amendment just yet, but we WILL need them to overturn it. And they are winning battle across the country currently, large and small, which is an impressive accomplishment considering the political climate we are in.
Also, the FOPA was a good bill for gun owners and is something we take for granted today. The Hughes amendment was a poision pill intended to kill it, and was thought to be easily overturned.
 
The NRA has professionals who know where to look for data, and laws (past/present/pending) and with whom to speak about the data. Their records and their efforts over these many years, serve the purpose of "institutional memory" as well. In sum, the NRA can presents facts better than you and I to the powers that be. The NRA can at the very least, attempt to facilitate informed decision-making. We may not always like the avenue, we may not always like the outcome. If you don't want to join the NRA, perhaps cut a check of equal value, divided by three and mail the checks to Nancy, Harry and Barack. :p Sorry. I couldn't resist that last bit. Hopefully it didn't make your eyes bleed. :D

Geno
 
The 2nd amendment is for everyone, and in my opinion should be everyones right or"duty" to support National/ state level organizations like the NRA to fight for that right. After the shooting in Tucson every anti-gun activist was not just after high cap. mags but after guns period! As a lifelong gun owner, and a CHL holder I support the NRA/TSRA and every other pro 2nd amend. group out there that legally fights for my and your rights. Just because I am lucky enough to live in Texas does not mean I don't care what happens in other states, and that's why the NRA is there.
 
I just rejoined after a hiatus. Here's why:


We have some very archaic laws here in NC and they are fuzzy at best regarding open carry and home defense. We are severely limited as to where we can carry with a concealed handgun permit. Pistol purchases are subject to the discretion (read: whim) of the local sheriffs. Law makers are finally seeking to change this. I doubt it would happen at all without the support of the NRA.

Do I agree with the NRA 100%? No Are they always on the same page as myself politically? Absolutely not.

But they are helping with second amend rights. I pay 1000's of dollars a year in taxes to government employees that waste my money and could care less about my rights. What's $25 a year for a second amendment oriented organization going to hurt?
 
Although I am a member, I wrestled with it too. But my problem with the NRA is that I'm completely against the country being run by ANY lobbyists. This whole "my-special-interest-group-can-beat-up-your-special-interest-group" mentality is a HUGE part of what's wrong with this country. The 2nd amendment should be all that's needed, but I also fully realize that's not reality.
 
Let's face it the NRA is all we have. I don't agree on some policies, dropped my membership for several years and picked it back up. The NRA is really the only well known national organization that supports the 2nd so I support them kinda like the crooked politician that helps me and my local area.
 
Although I am a member, I wrestled with it too. But my problem with the NRA is that I'm completely against the country being run by ANY lobbyists. This whole "my-special-interest-group-can-beat-up-your-special-interest-group" mentality is a HUGE part of what's wrong with this country. The 2nd amendment should be all that's needed, but I also fully realize that's not reality.

I agree %110. Sadly, it is what it is. If I don't back the NRA, then I don't have anything in the fight. There are a bunch of special interest groups out there lobbying to take my rights...so I may as well back the NRA.

If someone pointed me to 2nd amendment organization that was better than the NRA, I'd go that route. But the fact is they are the big dog in our corner...I just hope they never bite the hand that feeds them.
 
I agree with 2WheelsGood. In reality, we shouldn't need the NRA. It should be an interest group, not a junkyard dog that we have to let off the leash just to keep our rights from being infringed. Sadly, this isn't the case. However, having a big brother show up to a fight (even if he eats all your jello pudding at home) is better than having nobody to back you up.

Currently, I'm a member of the NRA, GOA, and TSRA. If all else fails..."Molon Labe"
 
I rejoined last year myself and like most here, I agree they aren't perfect, but they have the best opportunity to affect change on a national level...
 
It's been well stated in this thread.............truly, the NRA is the ONLY organization with the clout necessary to be heard on a national level.

Not perfect, I'm a life member and I sure don't agree with EVERY single approach they've used, but without the NRA we'd be in about the condition that England is, maybe worse.
 
but GOA does do mailing campaigns and they also defend machine guns and permitless concealed carry on national TV...

Posturing isn't progress. You have to evaluate what is accomplished as opposed to what is promised. Understand that the NRA accomplishes a lot because they pick their battles. By pushing the middleline progressively further and further in our favor they enable other groups to appear to have a credible role in the debate. Remember that supporting the NRA is like maintaining the foundation of your house, not glamorous, but what allows you to have a house to enjoy what you like.
 
The NRA is by far the most powerful 2nd Amendment Rights organization that lobbies Congress. Legislators really think twice when the NRA-ILA threatens to give them a bad rating.
 
What about their stance on PTSD veterans?

They're stance on permits.....

If you state something is a RIGHT then you don't need a permit or permission...a permit is based on permission and is therefore a priviledge...

I am glad they've supported semi auto rifles and normal capacity mags though...

The veteran thing is worrysome...

DB
 
What about their stance on PTSD veterans?

They're stance on permits.....

If you state something is a RIGHT then you don't need a permit or permission...a permit is based on permission and is therefore a priviledge...

I am glad they've supported semi auto rifles and normal capacity mags though...

The veteran thing is worrysome...

DB

The NRA can't fight every battle. If they did, they would be spread too thin and wouldn't accomplish anything. Like I said, I without a doubt don't agree with everything within the NRA, their decisions or their actions. But I do agree with the actions they take in securing my rights. Actions that no other organizations take....at least successfully.

Grassroots movements are fantastic, especially when we agree with them %100. Unfortunately they do little or nothing to sway the government or the voters they are attempting to reach. I'm not saying we should give up on grassroot movements at all. I'm just saying the NR takes action in defending our 2a rights.
 
I understand...but denying veterans firearms based on one pyschological opinion seems very draconian to me....so to support it....

GOA points out usually what should be done. The more freedom side of it...how it should be....but I think they should be taken seriously.

DB
 
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