Discussion in 'Rifle Country' started by SVTOhio, Apr 8, 2015.
anything to shoot 300-600 yards on occasion for fun.
For fun of course ?!?! And also I can see some hunting implications as well.
You can shoot some very aerodynamic 190-215 gr bullets from either a 30-06 or 300 WM that will not only shoot flatter, but hit harder on game at longer ranges. Do it cheaper too.
I'm not a long range shooter, but here is a write up on 30-06 from someone on another forum who is.
Very interesting thankyou.
When did this happen? It seems very quiet and unheralded to me.
I already own a 25-06 and 223 ar so this gun would be for a fun factor and possibly some big game hunting in the future. Seems handing loading won't cost much more then the 25-06 which I currently do. Same primers and same amount of powder. With brass seemingly easy to make and bullets being slightly more expensive then .257 and certainly a huge savings over any kind of factory ammo. Plus the gun can be built off any 30-06 which can be had used and cheap locally.
I assume you are talking about for long range "shooting" performance, because there's certainly a big difference between these two in bigger big game performance! I say this from my own personal experience on big bears and moose.
Why not split the difference and go with the .338 Winchester magnum? I'm here in "Outer Montana", where I'm now typing at a mile high, and that's the choice I made several years before. It's an absolute proven performer, with ammo available virtually everywhere. If you handload, it can be stunningly accurate. It's about as exotic as a PB&J, and the entry costs prove it.
I simply got to where I wanted a dedicated elk, moose, bear, and buffalo gun. Something with a heavier bullet than the common .30, and therefore the ability to leave the ought-6 alone and dedicated to it's duties. I think I chose well, no regrets. I'm launching a 225 grain bullet at just under 2900 fps, which indeed is not fun on the bench. But, once the bench work got done, you never feel it in the field. It's very effective in it's niche, and yes Virginia, it can reach out and touch something. Very, very, effectively.
Maybe that's what I'm trying to avoid is a common caliber. The 338-06 is different, but still simply to build the gun and make ammo for.
This is totally tongue-in-cheek you understand, but if you want uncommon, well become the 43rd person in the country to buy a Winchester 325WSM! If it t'were me, and I'm glad it's not, get all your brass now, 'cause the future is a big black hole concerning that offering from Winchester. It has as much "uncommon" on it as a cartridge can bear to have!
but you lose ballistic coefficient and sectional density, so by 300 yards, the .308 caliber bullet has overtaken the .338 caliber bullet, and higher sectional density gives better penetration.
Moving up in caliber is usually best for moving up in bullet weight.
Are you saying the 338-06 brass is going to be hard to find? Your losing me here.
"...300-600 yards..." Wouldn't buy or build a rifle for occasional short to medium range shooting. Certainly would not want any .338 or any other magnum myself.
"...2400-2500 fps in the 338-06..." Those velocities are max loads. Only a few powders give over 2500. The Lapua, excessive cost aside, starts faster than 2600 with all but one powder. According to Hodgdon. Still don't see paying $10 or more each though.
"...and moose..." No magnums of any kind needed. Not needed for big bears either.
Factory ammo cost are not a factor. Since the 338-06 can be reloaded for roughly 50-60 cents a piece.
The military does use it.
Chris Kyle used a McMillan Tac-338
The longest confirmed sniper kill was with a .338 Lapua in 2009
The new Mk21 Precision Sniper Rifle is chambered in .338 Lapua
Why you didn't recommend the immensely popular and nearly ubiquitous 338 Ruger Compact Magnum I don't know . . .
Because I didn't want to prevent the next guy who thought of it from posting. No sense in being a hog about these things. See, I didn't cut you out of your opportunity to post in this thead.
Now where's the raspberry icon?! Cain't never find the dang thing when I need it!!
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