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Crimp question for 44 mag

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by perrytrails, Dec 30, 2007.

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  1. perrytrails

    perrytrails Member

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    I'm getting ready to order dies for 44 mag, and i need a suggestion.

    I've used the 4 die set from lee for 45acp, 9mm, 38 special and i really like them.

    I keep reading about roll crimping the 44 mag so....................

    For those who have used both, should I get a 3 die set with a roll crimp die?

    Or get the 4 die lee with factory crimp die?


    I'd rather get the lee, but will the factory crimp die do the job on 44 mag?
     
  2. Eric F

    Eric F Member

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    I like the roll crimp for everything. If you are careful it can work as a taper crimp if your bullets do not have a crimp groove. I have used the FCD and think is is slightly over rated for what I do however it does have its place.
     
  3. Ol` Joe

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    I`ve been roll crimping 44 mags for 35+ years with no complaint. Same for 45LC, and 38/357. If it works, keep it simple.
     
  4. perrytrails

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    thanks, I'll use the roll crimp.................................
     
  5. Jim Watson

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    If you load real revolver bullets with a crimp groove (cast) or a cannelure (jacketed) you can turn out good ammunition with a three die set, roll crimping in the seating step.

    If you want to use cheap plated bullets, I think you should taper crimp in a separate step to keep from cutting up the thin plated fake jacket.
     
  6. Bailey Boat

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    Ditto what Dr. Watson says.... I have ordered individual taper crimp dies for .38/.357 AND .44 from RCBS so I can make good rounds using the plated stuff from Berry's and Ranier..........
     
  7. perrytrails

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    I see, I see,

    I planned on using plated for practice (240 rainers) w/o crimp ring.......

    So I should use the Factory crimp die or tapered crimp on these. Correct?

    Not sure what hunting bullets I'm going to use yet for deer, I'm open for suggestions from experiance on this one. Hp bullets or flat nose??????????????

    When I use a bullet w/ a crimp ring I can just adj my seating die to get the desired crimp, is this correct? I'm assuming this is what your refering to Mr. Watson.

    Sorry for all the questions, Thanks very much for the info!!!!!!:)
     
  8. Lennyjoe

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    Yep, roll crimp is the ticket for .44 mag loads.
     
  9. RecoilRob

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    But, the Factory Crimp does an excellent job too. And, it isn't sensitive to case length variations. I use them on all 44 & 45's with no problems. Probably comes down to your preference as either type crimper will work.
     
  10. Lennyjoe

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    Good point.

    I load mostly Hard Cast for my .44 so I use a roll crimp.
     
  11. sarge 14

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    I use a Redding Profile Crimp die. Kind of a combo taper/roll you might say.
     
  12. WESHOOT2

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    ditto Redding Profile Crimp die

    I use them for 38 / 357 / 41 / 44 / and 45 Colt (but traded away my 45 Redhawk).

    I use LEE Carbide Factory Crimp dies for autoloading handgun cartridges.

    IME the Redding can enhance accuracy and consistency.

    I have other dies, too......
     
  13. FLORIDA KEVIN

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    I was under the impression that with Lee dies that the standard crimp dies for revolver cartridges are roll crimps dies and the dies for auto pistol rounds are of a tapered crimp design ! Am I misinformed ? Kevin
     
  14. Mr.Revolverguy

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    I use the factory crimp die for all my caliber and it is a roll crimp on that die. What I like about the factory crimp die is that it seems to size the brass a bit better for me. I have been reloading 44mag for 14 years and the roll crimp is the way to go but I prefer to use the roll crimp on the factory crimp die.
     
  15. Hook686

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    For 9mm & .30 Carbine, I use the Lee seating die, which I think does a great job of eliminating the need for a separate taper crimp die, thus it essentially provides the results of a taper crimp to these two rimless cartrdges. I use the Lee 3 die set.

    For .357 magnum & .44 magnum I use a Lee 4 die Classic Turret press, with the 4th die being the Lee Factory Crimp Die. I set this for a tight crimp to minimize any crimp jump potential for my loads, especially with the light weight 329PD.

    My opinion is if it is rimless, go with the 3 die set. If it is rimmed add the Lee Factory Crimp Die.
     
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