Crystal Ball on Guns-the Future

Discussion in 'Handguns: General Discussion' started by UncleEd, Dec 29, 2021.

  1. UncleEd

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    Not just abut handguns but Wilson
    Combat video will be featuring
    what Bill Wilson and Ken Hackathorn
    foresee. It starts tomorrow night.

    The teaser indicated that the future
    of handguns is probably summed
    up in polymer and the 9mm.

    The show could be interesting because
    Wilson may reflect just what the
    industry sees as the future.

    Just to be nasty, I bet it doesn't
    involve any new .41 Magnum
    pistols. ;):p:eek::evil:
     
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    Well, I gess that depends on which superpower or bloc becomes the world hegemon for the foreseeable future.

    If the US manages to retain dominance or somehow find a homeostatic balance with China, we can expect much of the same internal struggle between left and right over gun rights.

    If China or the EU controls the world economy and energy supply, they will slap punishing tariffs and sanctions on the US until we are forced to eliminate private gun ownership, as well as a host of other unique American freedoms, to bring us more in line with their respective visions of Maoist/Globalist collective societies.
     
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    I wouldn't bet with you. I think the future is going to be dark and dismal, and there won't be any new 41 Magnums to brighten it up.:(
     
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    For some reason, at this point in my life, a nice medium sized revolver in .41 Special, could do most things I need done. I guess I could always just get a 10mm revolver and get over, but hope springs eternal!
     
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    I bet the 10mm crowd will get all twisted up....
     
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    Oh they’re probably just introducing a joint venture 2011 :neener:
     
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    In the short term, the future will be high capacity micro guns. The next wave will be high cap pocket .380s. The LCP Max set the standard and the rest of the industry will chase the fad. I won’t carry one, but Kel Tec seems to be the only company willing to have an original thought and bring it to production. The Sig 365 was a brief bit of brilliance, but did anyone else notice that the semi staggered mag looks a lot like a Savage .32 magazine? And how many Glock variations from other companies do we need? I’d love to see a future that actually embraces some originality.
     
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    How about a high capacity 5.7x28 subcompact pistol? Or a new .32 pocket pistol? How about a LCR in .44 special?
     
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    If, like so much recent technology, 3D printing develops rapidly, we'll see a crop of home made handguns, some that are specifically designed for home or "underground" manufacture. A 21st Century version of the Liberator. Governments will try to choke off ammo manufacture rather than block ownership.
     
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    Biggest unknown is the possibility of gun control laws. If the 10rd mag limit comes back that will change a lot of things. Unless that happens, I do expect to just see more soulless, plastic, striker fired stuff.
     
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    That would definitely be a departure..
    Although 100% agree its just marketing.
     
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    Didn't compare it to a Savage. Did notice the rounds stack similarly to those in my Walther P22.

    The industry will change at some point, they kind of have to if they want to keep selling new guns. I'd guess that at some point to keep pushing the high capacity idea we will either get some unconventional pistol magazine like the KelTec P50 or some company will try and push out a high velocity 32cal pistol cartridge. I don't expect either to really catch on though.
     
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    Will someone be posting a link to the video?
     
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    I can see a future uptick in revolver options, as semi auto firearms are the primary target for demonization by the media and leftists today.

    Stay safe.
     
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    5.7x28 is about 40mm overall and right at 8mm in diameter. So, it's right at 10mm longer and only 1mm smaller diameter than 9x19. The need to cant the rounds to reduce the magazine length offsets the skinnier rounds. Otherwise the beast gets to Wildey dimensions quickly--pretty much the opposite of "sub compact" sadly.

    Might be easier, actually, to make a subcompact in 7.62x25--but it would have a very fat grip

    There's only a limited number of geometries for building a double-stack single feed magazine.
    There's considerable engineering in the humble box magazine.
    How much "straight" (e.g. single stack) is in the magazine affects how easy/hard the magazine is to load. It also affects follower design, too.
    Now, the engineering answer would be to use a double-stack double-feed magazine--but, that introduces extra width in the slide/bolt to accommodate the double-feeding. This is often seen as counter-productive in a "concealment" pistol.
    Most of the people in the micro-compact market are basically committing their purchasers to getting some sort of loader to get 10 round into the space of 8; or 12 into the space of 10; and so on.

    Now, where will the future go?
    No telling.
    Laugo has found a new way to lock up a pistol--whether the market (and time) decides it's too complicated (versus Browning tipping barrel) only time will tell.
    Maybe we will see developments in gas-delayed blowback; or maybe flapper-delayed--both are simpler ways than just relying on mass in larger-caliber fixed-barrel pistols.
    Maybe not.
    Maybe it's phased plasma pistols in the 4 watt range.
     
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  17. UncleEd

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    Watched it.

    Bound to offend some regarding
    training and others will not like
    comments on red dots sights.

    Wasn't as wide ranging as I hoped.
     
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    I skipped through the video. I guess I am a gun Luddite. I didn’t see anything that tripped my trigger (pun intended) or that surprised me.

    I would like to put my hands on that Alien pistol the Mr. Hackathorn mentions toward the end. It sounds and looks interesting.

    Was somewhat amused revolvers weren’t mentioned. Revolvers are selling pretty well now, from what I see and hear. Mostly compact revolvers, but that is how my addiction started. ;) I got an S&W 442 for my birthday years ago.
     
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    There’s no money in revolvers (for Bill Wilson).
     
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    yep, we need the alien to become affordable. and licensed technology. it's the only truly "new" thing I've seen in a while.
     
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    :rofl:

    Very true. :D
     
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  22. Great Scot

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    How about a polymer P7 that people could afford! Could easily squeeze 10+ rounds into compact frame. Given how Springfield’s take on the Hi Power is being gobbled up, I would expect a similar reaction to a P7 reintroduction
     
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    Have you ever looked under the hood of a P7 ? It’s scarier than seeing Nancy Pelosi naked!

    I’m not sure that there are many guys that truly can tear one down and reassemble it without a duplicate nearby, much less build one. It’s a marvel of German engineering.
     
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    I don't even like to take the slide off of mine.

    I predict that there is going to be even more competition in the early 20th century semi auto market in the future. Unfortunate for me but to be fair I have always wondered how so many marvels of engineering escaped interest for as long as they did.
     
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    I reckon I used the wrong term (under the hood). If you pull the grips off a P7 it looks like a crazy spider web of layered springs that seem to go every direction.

    I only pulled a grip panel one time - never again, it freaked me out!
     
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