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CSI Miami- Flawed?

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Glock19Fan, Oct 9, 2006.

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  1. Glock19Fan

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    I just got done watching the episode of the sniper on the roof top. I rarely watch this show, but watched it tonight to see how the newer episodes are.

    Anyway, there were an uncountable amount of gun related mistakes.

    The "sniper", was using Accelerater rounds, which they described as a bullet with a plastic cover used ONLY to prevent the groove charactaristics from being printed on the bullet. The bullets, which were .223, weighed 7 grains, 14 grains, 21 grains, and 28 grains. The blonde girl fired each into gelatin, and when showed in slow motion, showed a bullet that looked exactly like a 55 grain bullet would. Also, the velocity from the chrony was listed as 2800 FPS. The total penetration in the gelatin appeared to be 5-6 inches. Being a boat tailed bullet, with a sharp profile, it would be almost impossible for the bullet not to tumble. It didnt, and traveled point first the whole path.

    The "sniper" was taking shots from a distance of 650 yards, with one incident at 975 yards. Each victim was hit in the foreheads.

    Now, with the latest designs in match ammunition, with the most presicion made firearms, these shots would be hard to make with the most trained and most experienced shots. In fact, the bullet, while traveling fast, would NOT make it to the target before the victim had time to move.

    So, this show is trying to make us believe that a cartridge roughly in the power range of a .17HMR is perfectly capable of making 1000 yard shots and instant kills.

    There is also loads of other BS I have spotted in this show which isnt even worth mentioning.

    IMO, this show is just a soap opera mixed with criminals.

    What other mistakes have you seen on these shows?
     
  2. Pilgrim

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    Would it really be that hard for the program producers to hire someone who knows firearms to test their scripts for authenticity?

    Pilgrim
     
  3. ceetee

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    Why spend the caysh if you don't have to?
     
  4. cbsbyte

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    Why bother hiring an expert on firearms when most viewers wouldn't know the difference between the BS and accurate information.
     
  5. RNB65

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    It's TV, folks. AKA, Fantasyland.
     
  6. Hoppy590

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    man they havnt made excellerators in forever.

    i believe they came in 30-06 correct? iv never used them though my father had. if i remember correctly they went about 4000 fps
     
  7. Firehand

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    Inaccuracies? BS??? on CSI???

    WOW!
     
  8. gezzer

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    TV of course they are wrong. Why let the facts get in the way of a good story.

    Do not believe TV or movies for firearms facts.
     
  9. taliv

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    and why not hyper-exaggerate the ballistics of .22LR ammo to make all the idiots think it should be banned because it's too powerful?

    i mean, if that nutty florida police chief would stoop to deliberate fabrication, what makes you think hollywood types wouldn't, when a) they're just as malicious and loopy, and b) fabrication is their job?
     
  10. gbran

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    I've shot Accelerators thru my '06. They're fast, flat and offer really crappy accuracy.
     
  11. carpediem

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    and then there was that episode a while back that was completely full of :cuss: regarding left-hand barrel twists
     
  12. SoCalShooter

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    That's for me to know and not you!
    These and other reasons are why I really love watching "THE UNIT" they do an excellent job in combat tactics and in weapons deployment. I wish that producers and directors would not just give some actor a deagle and have him running around shooting it like its the greatest thing ever.
     
  13. Panthera Tigris

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    Of course it's flawed, it's a fictional tv show. Nothing on tv gets it all right.
     
  14. Tommygunn

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    Dittos. It's only a TV show.
    I have fired .30-30 accelerators. They used saboted spire bullets so you could only load 1 in the mag at a time to prevent the point from blowing a primer. That's bad ju-ju in a tube-fed rifle.
    I understand the legal profession is a bit concerned about these CSI shows as they are starting to see juries who believe the TV stuff is real, and they don't want to convict defendants without the nonsensically over-intricate microscopically unbelievable evidence these shows regular portray investigators uncovering.
     
  15. SoCalShooter

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    panthera thats not the point in my opinion the problem is that some (a lot) of people watch this stuff and think its real and that is what needs to change.
     
  16. Panthera Tigris

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    Well yeah, I agree with that. They do need to change.

    My girlfriend has told me I ought to be one of the consultants for these shows, as I'm always pointing out stuff that's inaccurate.
     
  17. SoCalShooter

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    Panthera:

    Couldnt hurt I am sure that most people on here could advise or make suggestions, cause seriously a lot of stuff I have seen is just plain silly and makes gun owners and guns look really bad.
     
  18. The Grand Inquisitor

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    You say that the inaccurate facts in these shows "need to be changed".

    Exactly what would you like to do here - vote for legislation that requires TV scripts to be fact checked by lawyers and professions for every known field that a television show covers?

    In the end - it's a TV show, and the bottom line for TV writers is that the script is exciting and new - not that it is accurate, factually correct, and stimulating to the hobbist and occasional nit-picker.

    Also, one of the best things to do is to just come out and admit you watch the show - no one really believes you "just caught it this one time"...truth be told...we've all said that about stupid TV shows.


    PS - Want to be appaled - learn a little about medicine and then watch ER or some other stupid doctor program - you'll nenver thing everyone else is so stupid again...
     
  19. gezzer

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    That is their intent.
     
  20. Coronach

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    Wait...isn't that the show where they had a bad guy behind a truck and they had a huge mexican standoff because they couldn't get a clear shot at him, and no one bothered to tell the producers that they could just flank him and then shoot him, since they had about a dozen guys armed with rifles (some of them precision rifles), open fields, and all time in the world?

    :scrutiny:

    My opinion: if it's on TV and it involves guns and/or tactics, it's probably crap.

    Mike
     
  21. Seminole

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    In oh, so many ways. The writing is apalling, the acting worse (the "blonde girl" has a range of expression that ranges from flat to absolutely flat, and David Caruso's "acting" consists of a perpetually pained look while standing in profile to the camera), the editors seem to think that adding various video effects will somehow distract the viewers from the bad writing and horrible acting, and. . . oh, you mean another one of the episodes had some unbelievably obvious mistake related to firearms?

    I didn't see this episode of the absolute worst of the CSI franchise. In fact, the only reason I ever watch the show is to laugh at how bad it is (I really enjoy CSI and CSI NY, despite the fact that they also make silly mistakes related to firearms).
     
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    I saw that episode as well, and have never watched CSI Miami before. Just happened to be on when I was watching TV. Also saw the jail marder/ escape episode. Thought they did a good job of not portraying the gun shop as a Neo-Nazi Base, as they did on Law and Order.

    They also did a nice job of saying that the bullet could have been from either a .38 or .357 in that episode.

    Could always be better.
     
  23. Mal H

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    I agree with Seminole. The acting in CSI:Miami is so atrocious, I couldn't take the torture of trying to watch it any longer; stopped about 1 1/2 years ago and never looked back. If you look up "melodrama" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of David Caruso.

    The original CSI isn't bad in the acting department even though it also has serious forensics and firearms flaws. For example, the bullet they show spinning wildly in the water tank during the lead-in segment each week is laughable. In the distance the bullet travels in the tank, it should revolve one or maybe two revolutions at most when fired from the average handgun, and the bullet apparently expanded in mid-air since it is fully expanded when it hits the water.
     
  24. KenW.

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    CSI's inaccuracies are second only to MacGuyver's
     
  25. Panthera Tigris

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    I don't mind CSI Miami. I watch it more than the other two CSI's.

    I prefer NCIS and The Unit however, and Boston Legal is the best!


    Denny Crane....
     
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